denvermartinfarms
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Your talking Polled Herefords right?
denvermartinfarms":1jgkd3oo said:Your talking Polled Herefords right?
Alan":399a4bub said:denvermartinfarms":399a4bub said:Your talking Polled Herefords right?
Well, horns will get you docked 20 to 40 cents a pound, so by this reasoning horned Herefords will get you docked 40 to 80 cents a pound. The sale price has nothing to do with skinny azz, leggy, shallow POS's. I usually don't pay much attention to this kind of post, but lots of :bs: :bs: flying here. A "good Hereford may get knocked a nickel from a good black but not 20 to 40 cents.
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I was just asking what kind of cows he was looking at and seeing worth the money. I assumed they were polled because that's most of what's around anymore.Alan":2kg0t3dw said:denvermartinfarms":2kg0t3dw said:Your talking Polled Herefords right?
Well, horns will get you docked 20 to 40 cents a pound, so by this reasoning horned Herefords will get you docked 40 to 80 cents a pound. The sale price has nothing to do with skinny azz, leggy, shallow POS's. I usually don't pay much attention to this kind of post, but lots of :bs: :bs: flying here. A "good Hereford may get knocked a nickel from a good black but not 20 to 40 cents.
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denvermartinfarms":2tz3suv9 said:I was just asking what kind of cows he was looking at and seeing worth the money. I assumed they were polled because that's most of what's around anymore.Alan":2tz3suv9 said:denvermartinfarms":2tz3suv9 said:Your talking Polled Herefords right?
Well, horns will get you docked 20 to 40 cents a pound, so by this reasoning horned Herefords will get you docked 40 to 80 cents a pound. The sale price has nothing to do with skinny azz, leggy, shallow POS's. I usually don't pay much attention to this kind of post, but lots of :bs: :bs: flying here. A "good Hereford may get knocked a nickel from a good black but not 20 to 40 cents.
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Alan":2rvmebn0 said:I'll concede it must be a regional thing. If you take two identical steers to the market, same weight, same amount of muscle and the same potential carcass development only one was black and one was a herf. If the herf truly gets docked $20 cwt for it's hide I wouldn't own a herf cow. If you have a true polled herd of black cows I would buy a herf bull, if your herd is truly polled it would not matter if the bull was horned or not. I still feel it is easier to find a good horn herf than a good polled herf, but polled Herfs are catching up.
Here my steers take about a $5 hit (Herfs) another $5 if I get horns. But mine and other Herfs at the sale have out sold plenty of black hides cattle in the past.
TennesseeTuxedo":2i9u0kfk said:Alan":2i9u0kfk said:I'll concede it must be a regional thing. If you take two identical steers to the market, same weight, same amount of muscle and the same potential carcass development only one was black and one was a herf. If the herf truly gets docked $20 cwt for it's hide I wouldn't own a herf cow. If you have a true polled herd of black cows I would buy a herf bull, if your herd is truly polled it would not matter if the bull was horned or not. I still feel it is easier to find a good horn herf than a good polled herf, but polled Herfs are catching up.
Here my steers take about a $5 hit (Herfs) another $5 if I get horns. But mine and other Herfs at the sale have out sold plenty of black hides cattle in the past.
I'm convinced that part of the problem at the sale barn we frequent is that there just aren't enough other Hereford calves coming through to put a decent pot load together which I guess impacts their value.
I love my Herefords and I'm looking forward to seeing the baldies they produce for us in the future.
bigbull338":2wyy077r said:i see 1 common theme here.you guys are talking about how much herefords get docked .20 to .40 a lb.but think for a minute the guys buying them at yalls so called discounts are the 1s picking up the money that seller lost.because they know what feeders will pay top dolloar for those calves.
Me too! I think I have atleast 1 of every kind of cow they is. But all my cows are good calf raisers.SmokinM":1fojnda9 said:If brood cows are priced right and will raise a good calf then I would buy it. I buy on quality not color. :2cents:
highgrit":1z35rft6 said:Somethings make no sense, we're going to wean a larger calf that will grow faster in a feedlot. But worth less I need to see this for myself.
Son of Butch":13fch63g said:highgrit":13fch63g said:Somethings make no sense, we're going to wean a larger calf that will grow faster in a feedlot. But worth less I need to see this for myself.
A larger calf selling at a lower price per pound can still = higher NET profit.
Same with a feeders steers.
White faced fat cattle almost never ever ring the bell around here on sale day...BUT...NET profit may still be as high
or higher as the bell ringers.
It takes good record keeping to know for sure...however record keeping is often a short coming of many a farmer.
TennesseeTuxedo":1ehsdogr said:And some are tempted to use CRAP accounting methods.Son of Butch":1ehsdogr said:highgrit":1ehsdogr said:Somethings make no sense, we're going to wean a larger calf that will grow faster in a feedlot. But worth less I need to see this for myself.
A larger calf selling at a lower price per pound can still = higher NET profit.
Same with a feeders steers.
White faced fat cattle almost never ever ring the bell around here on sale day...BUT...NET profit may still be as high
or higher as the bell ringers.
It takes good record keeping to know for sure...however record keeping is often a short coming of many a farmer.
Where are you located Son of Butch?
Son of Butch":14vy5hjf said:however record keeping is often a short coming of many a farmer.