hay demand

BTRANCH":fgfol88v said:
I know I am late getting in on this, but for the last 2 years (05-06) Texas waived the CDL requirements for haul hauling as long as the load was not over 40' long and 14' high. Your state might be doing the same for drought/disaster relief.

We hauled hay from AR and LA with just our regular drivers license.

You would be right.
 
tncattle":p9zxb2k9 said:
There is no way they can know if it's just my hay or someone else's. I'm hauling around 210 bales at a time and my total weight with trailer was about 16K pds. Including truck also I was still under 25K pds. I called the Tn. DMV and they said I was fine as long as I didn't go over 26K pds.
Bill of ladings usually bring a quick answer to the question of who is the owner. What it weighs at that point doesn't matter.
 
somn":3adzlzqb said:
tncattle":3adzlzqb said:
There is no way they can know if it's just my hay or someone else's. I'm hauling around 210 bales at a time and my total weight with trailer was about 16K pds. Including truck also I was still under 25K pds. I called the Tn. DMV and they said I was fine as long as I didn't go over 26K pds.
Bill of ladings usually bring a quick answer to the question of who is the owner. What it weighs at that point doesn't matter.

There is no bill, the hay comes from a family friend of his and he is just getting it whenever he wants. They have known each other a long time and everything is a handshake deal. It is just a load of hay going to a friend's house because he needs it.
 
tncattle":1x4r8661 said:
somn":1x4r8661 said:
tncattle":1x4r8661 said:
There is no way they can know if it's just my hay or someone else's. I'm hauling around 210 bales at a time and my total weight with trailer was about 16K pds. Including truck also I was still under 25K pds. I called the Tn. DMV and they said I was fine as long as I didn't go over 26K pds.
Bill of ladings usually bring a quick answer to the question of who is the owner. What it weighs at that point doesn't matter.

There is no bill, the hay comes from a family friend of his and he is just getting it whenever he wants. They have known each other a long time and everything is a handshake deal. It is just a load of hay going to a friend's house because he needs it.
Oh trust me you will either have a bill of lading or you will pay the fine for not having one. When you start crossing state lines engaging in commerce the dumb farmer routine won't work. These states don't like lost revenue. You will either pay them to let you do it or they will fine you for not getting the authority from them first to do it. You will be considered a CMV if your registraton or weight exceed 26,000# and or 10,000#.
 
somn":3d19zol9 said:
tncattle":3d19zol9 said:
somn":3d19zol9 said:
tncattle":3d19zol9 said:
There is no way they can know if it's just my hay or someone else's. I'm hauling around 210 bales at a time and my total weight with trailer was about 16K pds. Including truck also I was still under 25K pds. I called the Tn. DMV and they said I was fine as long as I didn't go over 26K pds.
Bill of ladings usually bring a quick answer to the question of who is the owner. What it weighs at that point doesn't matter.

There is no bill, the hay comes from a family friend of his and he is just getting it whenever he wants. They have known each other a long time and everything is a handshake deal. It is just a load of hay going to a friend's house because he needs it.
Oh trust me you will either have a bill of lading or you will pay the fine for not having one. When you start crossing state lines engaging in commerce the dumb farmer routine won't work. These states don't like lost revenue. You will either pay them to let you do it or they will fine you for not getting the authority from them first to do it. You will be considered a CMV if your registraton or weight exceed 26,000# and or 10,000#.

My weight was under 25K pds. Why would I have a bill of lading if I'm just taking a load of hay for a friend because he needs it. There is no commerce invloved.
 
tncattle":26wbrqcu said:
somn":26wbrqcu said:
tncattle":26wbrqcu said:
somn":26wbrqcu said:
tncattle":26wbrqcu said:
There is no way they can know if it's just my hay or someone else's. I'm hauling around 210 bales at a time and my total weight with trailer was about 16K pds. Including truck also I was still under 25K pds. I called the Tn. DMV and they said I was fine as long as I didn't go over 26K pds.
Bill of ladings usually bring a quick answer to the question of who is the owner. What it weighs at that point doesn't matter.

There is no bill, the hay comes from a family friend of his and he is just getting it whenever he wants. They have known each other a long time and everything is a handshake deal. It is just a load of hay going to a friend's house because he needs it.
Oh trust me you will either have a bill of lading or you will pay the fine for not having one. When you start crossing state lines engaging in commerce the dumb farmer routine won't work. These states don't like lost revenue. You will either pay them to let you do it or they will fine you for not getting the authority from them first to do it. You will be considered a CMV if your registraton or weight exceed 26,000# and or 10,000#.

My weight was under 25K pds. Why would I have a bill of lading if I'm just taking a load of hay for a friend because he needs it. There is no commerce invloved.
Maybe you should check with the FMCSA they can explain to you the definition of commerce. They can also explain to you about gross combination weight rating. They don't care how much you are hauling they set the rules that you must follow by how much weight you can haul. Your load might be under 25,000# but what are you registered for? Trust me if you treat any states DOT officers like you know it all they will prove to you that you don't and it will be expensive.
 

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