hay demand

tncattle

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I live in middle Tn. and a man is paying me $750 to go pick up small square hay bales in Valparaiso In. and I get to use his 30 ft. brand new goose-neck trailer. I'm not getting rich but still clearing over $400 a load after my expenses. Nice pt. time $. I don't know what he is charging people for the hay but I think it's mostly horse owners that are buying it.
 
Of course it is horse owners, not many cattle people will pay that much. Hope you and the guy are cash up front.
 
Nowland Farms":nc9xw5lg said:
I hope you are D.O.T. legal when they pull you over. If not, the $400 won't go very far on the fines...

Good Luck.
And the Law has been wearin' Hay haulers out around here lately.
 
There is no way they can know if it's just my hay or someone else's. I'm hauling around 210 bales at a time and my total weight with trailer was about 16K pds. Including truck also I was still under 25K pds. I called the Tn. DMV and they said I was fine as long as I didn't go over 26K pds.
 
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rouxshortorn said:
how many bales are you hauling and what kind of truck?[/quote
The truck is a 97 F350 Powerstroke. I ran about 60-65 on the way back loaded. Could have ran faster but it kills the MPG.
 
tncattle":2t5sdezu said:
There is no way they can know if it's just my hay or someone else's.

You might be surprised at what DOT knows/can find out! ;-) :lol: :lol:
 
msscamp":3nolsc9f said:
tncattle":3nolsc9f said:
There is no way they can know if it's just my hay or someone else's.

You might be surprised at what DOT knows/can find out! ;-) :lol: :lol:

Not trying to pick a fight but I know some these people and they are completely swamped with their normal work. If I bring back a load to my friend's place because he is my friend tell me how someone else knows the difference.
 
tncattle":1zixk9hb said:
msscamp":1zixk9hb said:
tncattle":1zixk9hb said:
There is no way they can know if it's just my hay or someone else's.

You might be surprised at what DOT knows/can find out! ;-) :lol: :lol:

Not trying to pick a fight but I know some these people and they are completely swamped with their normal work. If I bring back a load to my friend's place because he is my friend tell me how someone else knows the difference.

I agree, as long as your less than 26K G.C.W.R and legal with all aspects as in lighting, safety chains ECT. Screw DOT. As far as they’re concerned it's for personal use.
 
The truck is a 97 F350 Powerstroke. I ran about 60-65 on the way back loaded. Could have ran faster but it kills the MPG.

I hope your tranny is a manual. I'd be concerned about an auto if you don't have a tranny temp gauge.
 
dcara":3r4k2xzs said:
The truck is a 97 F350 Powerstroke. I ran about 60-65 on the way back loaded. Could have ran faster but it kills the MPG.

I hope your tranny is a manual. I'd be concerned about an auto if you don't have a tranny temp gauge.

Way ahead of you there. First thing I did when I bought this truck was rip out the crappy little stock tranny cooler and install a 32K pd. rated tranny cooler that is half as big as the radiator!
 
Not trying to bust your bubble but when the right man yanks you over you're going to pay. Whether you think you're legal or not doesn't matter. And I don't understand why you would want to wear out a perfectly good truck to put money in someone else's pocket. Of all the reasons I've spent an obscene (to me) amount of money on trucks/trailers in my short lifetime, fun has never been one.

cfpinz
 
tncattle":1g7rb7oc said:
dcara":1g7rb7oc said:
The truck is a 97 F350 Powerstroke. I ran about 60-65 on the way back loaded. Could have ran faster but it kills the MPG.

I hope your tranny is a manual. I'd be concerned about an auto if you don't have a tranny temp gauge.

Way ahead of you there. First thing I did when I bought this truck was rip out the crappy little stock tranny cooler and install a 32K pd. rated tranny cooler that is half as big as the radiator!

Smart move. Sounds like I'm preaching to the choir but:
1) You can never have enough tranny cooling when hauling so another aux cooler and a deeper pan would help.
2) Synthetic tranny fluids (I like Shaffers) will give you extra margin at high tranny temps/loads since they don't break down at the lower temps of the fossil/dino type tranny fluids.
3) I still recommend a gauge so you can adjust your driving to keep the tranny temp under 220F.
4) Replace your tranny fluid anytime it has exceeded 200-220F for any extended period, or repeated short periods.

Happy hauling
 
cfpinz":377aeo9n said:
Not trying to bust your bubble but when the right man yanks you over you're going to pay. Whether you think you're legal or not doesn't matter. And I don't understand why you would want to wear out a perfectly good truck to put money in someone else's pocket. Of all the reasons I've spent an obscene (to me) amount of money on trucks/trailers in my short lifetime, fun has never been one.

cfpinz

T
he truck has 274K miles on it, how am I wearing it out? This is what these trucks were built for, I didn't buy it so it could sit in the drive and be looked at. I wouldn't call going once or twice a month wearing it out anyway.
 
tncattle":1tb8v0n8 said:
cfpinz":1tb8v0n8 said:
Not trying to bust your bubble but when the right man yanks you over you're going to pay. Whether you think you're legal or not doesn't matter. And I don't understand why you would want to wear out a perfectly good truck to put money in someone else's pocket. Of all the reasons I've spent an obscene (to me) amount of money on trucks/trailers in my short lifetime, fun has never been one.

cfpinz

T
he truck has 274K miles on it, how am I wearing it out? This is what these trucks were built for, I didn't buy it so it could sit in the drive and be looked at. I wouldn't call going once or twice a month wearing it out anyway.

They're great trucks, not disputing that, but every truck has a certain amount of work left in it. The motor in your truck may be good for 400k (wouldn't bet the farm on it) but a lot depends on how the truck has been treated. I sold a 6.9 last year that had 350k on it, the motor had never been touched internally and ran like a champ but the rest of the truck was worn out. I beat the snot out of that thing and it was starting to nickle and dime me to death. Wife hit a gate post with the front fender hard enough to stall out the truck and I didn't notice if that tells you anything.

Food for thought: If the man you're hauling hay for is making enough he can pay you what he does, then why aren't you doing it for yourself? He's eliminating a lot of liability by hiring you.

cfpinz
 
cfpinz":hdtsaak7 said:
tncattle":hdtsaak7 said:
cfpinz":hdtsaak7 said:
Not trying to bust your bubble but when the right man yanks you over you're going to pay. Whether you think you're legal or not doesn't matter. And I don't understand why you would want to wear out a perfectly good truck to put money in someone else's pocket. Of all the reasons I've spent an obscene (to me) amount of money on trucks/trailers in my short lifetime, fun has never been one.

cfpinz

T
he truck has 274K miles on it, how am I wearing it out? This is what these trucks were built for, I didn't buy it so it could sit in the drive and be looked at. I wouldn't call going once or twice a month wearing it out anyway.

They're great trucks, not disputing that, but every truck has a certain amount of work left in it. The motor in your truck may be good for 400k (wouldn't bet the farm on it) but a lot depends on how the truck has been treated. I sold a 6.9 last year that had 350k on it, the motor had never been touched internally and ran like a champ but the rest of the truck was worn out. I beat the snot out of that thing and it was starting to nickle and dime me to death. Wife hit a gate post with the front fender hard enough to stall out the truck and I didn't notice if that tells you anything.

Food for thought: If the man you're hauling hay for is making enough he can pay you what he does, then why aren't you doing it for yourself? He's eliminating a lot of liability by hiring you.

cfpinz

Because I have no where to store the hay at all. I've figured it where I can make around $500 or more each trip from now on. He's not making much more than me at all, he just likes doing the farm thing as he says because he just moved down from New Jersey a yr. ago and is really into all this. He has a really good job and this is like a hobby to him. He knows people need the hay here and he makes a little bit off of it and gets hay to people as well. Also, FWIW I do most of mt own work on my truck and wife's car, saves $ and I don't trust mechanics very much.
 
Don't know if you have had to do much to your engine yet but here's something to think about when the time comes: Find an International truck dealership that's fairly local, the parts for your truck are about half price as the Ford place. I put an ebps on mine this week, $80 at Intl and the Ford jerks wanted $157! You may want to familiarize yourself with the cam position sensor in your truck and carry a spare when you're away from home. They're prone to going out. If your truck quits and the tach doesn't bounce when you crank it, that's what it is. Either 8mm or 10mm deepwell on a 1/4 ratchet and a screwdriver.

cfpinz
 
cfpinz":2jrxjjlg said:
Don't know if you have had to do much to your engine yet but here's something to think about when the time comes: Find an International truck dealership that's fairly local, the parts for your truck are about half price as the Ford place. I put an ebps on mine this week, $80 at Intl and the Ford jerks wanted $157! You may want to familiarize yourself with the cam position sensor in your truck and carry a spare when you're away from home. They're prone to going out. If your truck quits and the tach doesn't bounce when you crank it, that's what it is. Either 8mm or 10mm deepwell on a 1/4 ratchet and a screwdriver.

cfpinz

Thanks for the info, those things are already taken care of. The International dealership is within 10 miles of my house, I've already visited a couple of times--much better prices. I've had a CPS in my glove box from day one and your right it's a deep 10mm and screwdriver. You might already know of this site but it's the best there is for Ford trucks.

http://www.ford-trucks.com/
 
I know I am late getting in on this, but for the last 2 years (05-06) Texas waived the CDL requirements for haul hauling as long as the load was not over 40' long and 14' high. Your state might be doing the same for drought/disaster relief.

We hauled hay from AR and LA with just our regular drivers license.
 

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