Gonna go on the welfare like my neighbors........

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The ones that irk me are the young ones who get married/live together and have multiple kids one after another, knowing they get full heath benefits, never have to pay a dime for the hospital bills. Then they whine how much work it is raising kids, so basically they don't, they just let the state rasie them with free daycare, and free headstart programs.

In the real world they could never survive and they know it.

GMN
 
Our area is nothing but "get-a-check" city. Yes, there are deserving people that need help, but some of those lazy a$$ people work harder to get a check than they would at a real job. Let's get a check from the government and then work under the table for cash.

It just bites my rear end that all of us pay for this. Some people just should not breed.
 
Calman":13xhbzas said:
There's nothing wrong with taking a handout when needed.
the wrong is taking from other hard working people when you could make it on your own. I don't think there's a person on this board who havent needed help in some way wheither it be money or just lending a hand. I have done without many times because I had to much pride to ask for help. And I rest assured there's a lot of you on this board the same way.

Being poor is not a shame just an inconvenince.(spl)

Cal
I agree with what you are saying.
But I believe government run charity programs should be shut down and taxes lowered. People that wanted to could give more to church or private charity programs where the recipients could be better selected and monitored.

As I understand it, the Mormons take care of their own..What can't others do the same?
 
they cant take care of them selves.....most were never taught how too, they are decendents (sp) of welfare fraud types, they were taught by example how to be lazy.
i have been in many houses, the most nasty ones are the ones that belong to people that have no jobs, (they are not in between jobs), they have never had to have one, you would think with as much time as they have on thier hands their houses would be spotless.....nope. and thier kids are usually dirty and grimy, and have no manners, it is pitiful to think how the majority of these kids will repeat the same situation that they are living in now. and so on and so on and so on... :(
 
Huh ~ I think this is probably the saddest thread I have ever read on these boards.......
 
when i was paralized in 2000 it took me over a year to get dissability. i carried insurance for my family on my job which i could not GET to do anymore. they did not get medical bcause my hubby works [proudly]. every year i have to prove i have not improved.
on the otherhand my niece gets all of the stuff, shes lazy, druggy, has 2 children, fathers? ah but she has a mexican x felon boyfriend who was in a gang fight, was shot & when he got out got ssi & way more than i.
they also stole my daughters wallet thanksgiving, they got 24 hrs in jail. love identity thief

but life is still good:]
 
starbaby":vobnoqie said:
when i was paralized in 2000 it took me over a year to get dissability. i carried insurance for my family on my job which i could not GET to do anymore. they did not get medical bcause my hubby works [proudly]. every year i have to prove i have not improved.
on the otherhand my niece gets all of the stuff, shes lazy, druggy, has 2 children, fathers? ah but she has a mexican x felon boyfriend who was in a gang fight, was shot & when he got out got ssi & way more than i.
they also stole my daughters wallet thanksgiving, they got 24 hrs in jail. love identity thief

but life is still good:]

I'd give your neice a boot to the curb and fast, and say bye bye, permanently.

GMN
 
It is sad but so true. My neice lives in northern Texas. She Works for tne Texas department of welfare.It makes her sick when women come in and want welfare because the father of their children is to damn lazy or drunk or drug addicted to work .What is the answer? These children are innocent. She also said that it hurts her when a truly needy senior citizen needs help and because they own a meager home they only qualify for $10. She said most are to proud to accept it. Some people are truly needy and we should help them.But how do you handle the abuse. It is breakin the working americans back.
 
So which candidate has the "stones" to attack this problem and actually do something about it?

I think that we all have some issues with the abuse in the system but what have we done at our local or national level.

I'm expecting to get a piece of that pie(SSI not welfare) in a couple of years and I'd like some of to be left for me.

Just my two bits worth....DMc
 
kerley":330m0spn said:
It is sad but so true. My neice lives in northern Texas. She Works for tne Texas department of welfare.It makes her sick when women come in and want welfare because the father of their children is to be nice lazy or drunk or drug addicted to work .What is the answer? These children are innocent. She also said that it hurts her when a truly needy senior citizen needs help and because they own a meager home they only qualify for $10. She said most are to proud to accept it. Some people are truly needy and we should help them.But how do you handle the abuse. It is breakin the working americans back.

I do not think there are any easy answers, kind of like the health care crisis for working Americans also, when will the premiums ever stop going up?

Some thoughts on the welfare system are mandatory sterilization, mandatory repayment of welfare benefits, especially the delivery costs for having the kids, and just cut off after so many years on welfare. The children are the innocents true, but its not fair to other hard working people to have to support all of them on welfare forever, either.

GMN
 
Perhaps the first step to reforming welfare should be to take it away from the federal government and make it the responsibility of the state governments. Each state would then have a vested interest in how the system was run.

Walt
 
I think most hard workin American tax payers feel the same about people that are able to but won't work. And every one of you have made good points. I think most of us would go out of our way to help someone that is down.Recently my wife and I were coming home from town. At a stop light a man about 30 years old had a sign " I'm Hungry" well my wife gave him five dollars. I ask him if he could use a part time job on my farm? His reply was "doing what"
 
SSI is entitled to every person who pays into it. It is a poor poor program and is a perfect example of what socialist programs do in the long run. Look at SSI, welfare, your local indian reservation and then wonder if socialized medicine is the best move.
 
kerley":1og8rzkz said:
I think most hard workin American tax payers feel the same about people that are able to but won't work. And every one of you have made good points. I think most of us would go out of our way to help someone that is down.Recently my wife and I were coming home from town. At a stop light a man about 30 years old had a sign " I'm Hungry" well my wife gave him five dollars. I ask him if he could use a part time job on my farm? His reply was "doing what"

Thats funny! Lets face it they do not want to work, just expect a free ride! Given the chance to work they just make excuses why they can't.

GMN
 
my niece is the best con artist around ,at 25 she has it down pat. it is so depressing. if she or hers get sick, they go to the best facility. my kids who work, pay for ins, copay, and what level of care they want.
if she were to work, lol, she gets free daycare. she also gets gov. housing. turn her in, thats a joke.
now i can proudly tell my kids when they were little it was diapers an baby food or groceries [mac n cheese, wieners] i take my disability bcause i have to. I WOLD LOVE TO BE WORKING!

need to leave. blood pressure,ha. 1 more thing people who abuse handicap parking,
 
WHOOOOOOOO!! Don't get me started on handicaped parking!
See waaay too many teens useing Grannys placard ..
And then there are the idiots that leave shopping carts in the reserved places!! :mad:
Think it should changed to "Can work,do&eat-Don't work,don't eat"
 
GMN":h58abv2r said:
kerley":h58abv2r said:
It is sad but so true. My neice lives in northern Texas. She Works for tne Texas department of welfare.It makes her sick when women come in and want welfare because the father of their children is to be nice lazy or drunk or drug addicted to work .What is the answer? These children are innocent. She also said that it hurts her when a truly needy senior citizen needs help and because they own a meager home they only qualify for $10. She said most are to proud to accept it. Some people are truly needy and we should help them.But how do you handle the abuse. It is breakin the working americans back.

I do not think there are any easy answers, kind of like the health care crisis for working Americans also, when will the premiums ever stop going up?

I thought that owning your home didn't count as an asset.

Some thoughts on the welfare system are mandatory sterilization, mandatory repayment of welfare benefits, especially the delivery costs for having the kids, and just cut off after so many years on welfare. The children are the innocents true, but its not fair to other hard working people to have to support all of them on welfare forever, either.

GMN
 
samm":36er99ma said:
they cant take care of them selves.....most were never taught how too, they are decendents (sp) of welfare fraud types, they were taught by example how to be lazy.
i have been in many houses, the most nasty ones are the ones that belong to people that have no jobs, (they are not in between jobs), they have never had to have one, you would think with as much time as they have on thier hands their houses would be spotless.....nope. and thier kids are usually dirty and grimy, and have no manners, it is pitiful to think how the majority of these kids will repeat the same situation that they are living in now. and so on and so on and so on... :(

I do agree that there is a culture of dependent people that have lived two or more generations on hand outs and don't know any other way of living. And it is just as bad rurally as it is in the city. I see it in the high school where I work. People want to have their kids diagnosed with some sort of illness or disorder so that they can try to get another check. Then that check is used to support the family, rather than to provide for the needs of that child.

I have asked myself several times whether or not people realize that that diagnosis will follow that child around for this rest of her or his life and make that child forever dependent on the system for support? We drill it into their heads that once you are in the system, you will always need it. People just stop trying.

It is just lazy, plain and simple. I work and struggle sometimes day to day to make life better, or just to maintain what we have. The one thing my sons will never see me do is to give up. There is always something better.

If you never see that kind of "can do" attitude, then you won't know anything about it.

Why, oh why do some folks reproduce? There has to be an easier way to get money besides having kids!!!

My cousin has three kids by three men. They are all grown now, and one of them has her own son out of wedlock. Dad isn't in the picture and I doubt highly she knows who he is. Everyone puts a bright face on it, but the fact is, her mother was on welfare, now she is.

It is just easier for some folks not to make the effort.
 
GMN":14ywfcc6 said:
I do not think there are any easy answers, kind of like the health care crisis for working Americans also, when will the premiums ever stop going up?

GMN

I know one doctor who quit the practice. He says he could no longer afford the malpractice insurance, and charge folks reasonable fees. Something for nothing lawyer mongering patients have done much to drive up the costs. 10 million dollars awarded for a frivolous, trivial nurse's error is what is costing you and me. Doctors are not making as much now as they used to, in spite of the higher costs. It all goes to the insurance companies.
 
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