GM grass linked to Texas cattle deaths

Many many grasses, fruits etc. contain a type of cyanide. I'm betting they simply bloated on the fresh green grass....."farmer mistake".
 
I was wondering about that as I read it, TB.
It just sounded like they really wanted to leave the impression with people of "GM=Death".....
poor reporting as usual, IMO
 
I probably should have said that the articles about the recent deaths are geared towards scaring people. Now they will worry about eating beef that is fed GM passes.
 
We live in San Antonio, just south of Elgin, and had not heard about this. We have a field of Tifton 85, have not had any problems with the cattle.
 
chippie":1uzhanvj said:
I probably should have said that the articles about the recent deaths are geared towards scaring people. Now they will worry about eating beef that is fed GM passes.

Sorry Chippie...I follow your thoughts now. :oops:
That was precisely my concern as well.
I guess the smoke here is starting to fog my brain, too :lol:
 
TexasBred":1x3jmi8e said:
Many many grasses, fruits etc. contain a type of cyanide. I'm betting they simply bloated on the fresh green grass....."farmer mistake".

tb
could it be prussic acid(cyanide) simular to johnsongrass, haygrazer and etc, ?
 
Just another news reporter bashing GMO's. There has been genetically modified bermuda grasses for as long as well, coastal. Prussic acid poisoning could be a possibility I guess although I've never heard of it with a bermuda grass.
 
cross_7":1lojswfs said:
TexasBred":1lojswfs said:
Many many grasses, fruits etc. contain a type of cyanide. I'm betting they simply bloated on the fresh green grass....."farmer mistake".

tb
could it be prussic acid(cyanide) simular to johnsongrass, haygrazer and etc, ?
Probably just plain old bloat. The area is in a drought. Probably pulled them off bare pasture, turned them into oone that had not been grazed, they begin loading up on good green grass and bloated. Have seen it happen before. Sometimes only takes 10 minutes or so and they start staggering and going down. When a large number go down about all you can do is get the knife out and start puncturing the rumen and letting out gas.
 
1982vett":33im6k3a said:
Ever see a pasture of bermuda around here/there that didn't have some Johnson grass somewhere in it?

I haven't.
Come out here. I can show you hundreds of fields with NO Johnson grass beginning with all of mine. Got a few goatweeds and careless weeds but that's it.
 
It was a management error. Drought conditions, turned stressed,hungry, thirsty animals(just came back from a rodeo or something) on to a new pasture that was fertilized with little rain to follow.
It was prussic acid poisoning ,but theres nothing wrong with Tifton 85, lots of grasses would have caused the same problem.

Just too many variables gone wrong at the same time-
 
From the Producer's Cooperative Association, Bryan TX Facebook page:

A PSA for today...just got and e-mail from Dr. Larry Redmon, Forage Extension Specialist for TAMU/Agrilife Extension. He is reporting on a case of prussic acid poisoning and deaths of 15 Corriente roping calves grazing Tifton 85 bermuda on a ranch in the Bastrop area. We generally associate prussic acid poisoning with sorgrum sudan grasses and never with bermuda or bermuda hybrids. However, post-mortems, rumen analysis and repeated forage analysis has concluded that the culprit is indeed prussic acid. Tifton 85 bermudagrass was released from the USDA-ARS station at Tifton, GA in 1992 by Dr. Glenn Burton.
In the case of the Bastrop cattle, these were roping calves that had been at an event. Qutoing Dr. Redmon here: "The pasture where the cattle died had been severely drought stressed from last year's unprecedented drought, and had Prowl H2O applied during the dormant season, a small amount of fertilizer applied in mid to late April, received approximately 5" of precipitation within the previous 30 days, and was at a hay harvest stage of growth. Thus, the pasture did not fit the typical young flush of growth following a drought-ending rain or young growth following a frost we typically associate with prussic acid formation.
The cattle were stressed, hungry, and thirsty when they had finished roping for the evening; this is obviously not the ideal condition for cattle to be in when turned into a pasture that had not been grazed this season. However, this is not the answer to the problem. There is, although it appears to be an isolated event, prussic acid potential, and therefore potential for cattle death when grazing Tifton 85 bermudagrass.

Continuing to quote Dr. Redmon, "Some private individuals are beginning to issue their own notices at sale barns. This is not the type of announcement our producers need as all this does is alarm people and not inform them, so we plan to issue a news release in the near future explaining essentially what I have described in this message. BUT, I wanted you to know before the news release was issued. In fact, you will receive the news release first before we go to Ag Communications for public distribution.

What we wish to do is to advise, but not alarm those who currently have Tifton 85 pastures. Here are some important points for producers to consider:

1) Never turn hungry, stressed animals into a new pasture; allow them to fill on hay or in a familiar pasture first.

2) When turning cattle into a field of Tifton 85, pay close attention for the first hour or so to ensure cattle will not be in distress. If in doubt, obtain a fresh forage sample from the upper 1/3 of the canopy, place in a ziplock bag on ice, and get to the vet diagnostic lab immediately for analysis.

3) Make sure any Tifton 85 forage harvested for hay is properly field-cured before baling.

4) If producers currently have cattle on Tifton 85 pastures, it is unlikely they will experience problems.

5) Have producers report any unusual deaths to you (to obtain forage samples) and the local vet.

6) Tifton 85 bermudagrass still has the highest level of drought tolerance of all bermudagrass varieties and the highest level of animal performance of all warm-season perennial grasses.

Again, this situation has never been reported and the incident in Bastrop County is an isolated event...so far. I just wanted each of you to know about the situation so you would not be blindsided if someone in the county was to ask the question "What is this I hear about Tifton 85 bermudagrass..."

What really chaps my rear about this whole thing is how the media is causing people who are ignorant about agriculture to go into panic mode.
 
problem is still an ignorant news media looking for a sensation and if they have to make it up ......

well no big deal....we are not held accountable to anything or any standards any more.....

we will call it GMO until we have sufficiently terrorized the masses.....anything to get the spotlight off of the emperor and his lack of clothing.
 
pdfangus":lpdtaevg said:
problem is still an ignorant news media looking for a sensation and if they have to make it up ......

well no big deal....we are not held accountable to anything or any standards any more.....

we will call it GMO until we have sufficiently terrorized the masses.....anything to get the spotlight off of the emperor and his lack of clothing.
Amen Bro.
 
No different then the "lean finely textured beef (LFTB)" BS from a couple of weeks ago.
 

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