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Dave

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There was a lightning strike at about 8:50 this morning. Started a fire and the fire just blew up. I thought they had it at around 3:00 this afternoon. The west edge got away from them. It is sort of headed this way. Although it looks to be climbing the hills to the south east of us. I was down by the school and over heard them say they were going to shut Burnt River road down. I hurried home. We are under stage 2. Be packed and ready to go. First picture is down by the school at 1:30. After that is on my way home at about 6:45. The fire is just above a neighbors house that is up the draw in one of those shots.


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Praying for your safety and the safety of those around you, both 2 legged and 4 legged.

Lightning hit this 3' tall cedar scrub Tuesday evening, just ahead of the first measurable rain we've had in a really long time. I was standing 69 yards from it, on top of the hill above the tree, leaning on a 16' steel gate. Was able to stomp the fire out before I discharged the fire extinguisher I grabbed on the way down to it. Tree was less than 100 yards from our house. Should have went straight to the store and bought a lottery ticket.

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It was a long night. The fire got within 100 yards of the house. When I went in and flopped down on the recliner it was 2:30. There was 3 pumpers sitting around the house with their hoses strung out. The planes and helicopters are busy flying this afternoon. I don't know how big it is now but it has to be 5,000-6,000 acres or more. About 1,050 acres of my 1,200 acres is black. Got to love the fire fighters. Got to hate the bureaucracy of fire fighting. At 6:00 this morning the fire was down to nothing. But by the time they have there morning meetings it was 10:00 when they geared up to fight the fire. By then it was up and running again. My rant for the day.

First pic is my house from out on the county road. Second is Little Sinker Canyon. I have that same picture from when it was all green. Third one is looking down the driveway from the road.



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IF you can, and check with the dispatch, gather what livestock you can at night and either put in that green field....they won't leave it....... or create a corral, with a water source, in the black. Get them out of the 'tinderbox' as it's safe. The black is fine, it won't burn twice, but there is nothing to eat/keep them there and sticking a bale there isint terribly advisable, unless its silage. ONLY WHEN ITS SAFE FOR YOU!
 
It was a long night. The fire got within 100 yards of the house. When I went in and flopped down on the recliner it was 2:30. There was 3 pumpers sitting around the house with their hoses strung out. The planes and helicopters are busy flying this afternoon. I don't know how big it is now but it has to be 5,000-6,000 acres or more. About 1,050 acres of my 1,200 acres is black. Got to love the fire fighters. Got to hate the bureaucracy of fire fighting. At 6:00 this morning the fire was down to nothing. But by the time they have there morning meetings it was 10:00 when they geared up to fight the fire. By then it was up and running again. My rant for the day.

First pic is my house from out on the county road. Second is Little Sinker Canyon. I have that same picture from when it was all green. Third one is looking down the driveway from the road.



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You bring up a great point. When I was young if we were on a fire we stayed on a fire. If we got a line around it at 4am we had better be back checking the line at 8am before the sun got hot and the fire was active. Seemed we had a lot of experience, lots less equipment, and lots smaller fires.
 
Prayers for the safety of all that are heroically fighting this fire... You mentioned the house of the neighbor in the first pictures... did they manage to save them too? Bless them that worked so hard to save your place. The picture of the guy baling the hay on your way home from town, did they get it baled and the tractor/farmer and hay safe?
I hope that your cattle were able to find some protected spots... I know that there will be losses...
Please let us know if there is anything we can do....

@SmokinM ... that was a lucky save for you, being out there when it got struck and being able to stop the fire before it "got going".... we finally got some serious rain here too... just after the severe drought area was expanded and some went into extreme drought status... The rains will help tremendously. And the weird thing is we are looking to have rain off and on for the next 10 days now... one extreme to another...
 
It was a long night. Got to love the fire fighters. Got to hate the bureaucracy of fire fighting. At 6:00 this morning the fire was down to nothing. But by the time they have there morning meetings it was 10:00 when they geared up to fight the fire. By then it was up and running again. My rant for the day.

Ya know, the consumer of fire fighting services have a complicated relationship with fire fighters. Many of us don't know much because we've never seen a fire being fought except on the news. We want to think the best, and we want to believe the best, but the eye-witness experiences I've had make me question what kind of thinking is going on.

In Reno I had a wildland fire truck pass me and get off the freeway a long way ahead of me. By the time I got up to the exit I could see a fire at some distance and the truck had pulled up close to it, the fire about the same size as the truck. No wind, just some pretty tall sage burning. As we passed by I commented to my wife that it was nice to see them get there so quickly so they could put out the fire right away. A couple of days later we passed coming back the way we had come and the entire mountain side was black.

Another time we heard there was a grass fire in a valley where we drove through frequently. We were on the road and passed where the fire was, and it looked to be covering a couple of acres. There were about six large firetrucks and bunch of personal pickups just downhill of the fire, and about forty guys standing around shooting the bull. It looked more like a kegger than firefighters looking for a way to put out a fire.

Another time the firefighters actually got questioned... because a bunch of multimillion dollar homes were destroyed when they failed to fight a fire early. I saw that fire too, up on the side of a mountain as I drove past early in the morning. It was a small fire too, and I remember thinking that a helicopter with a bucket could put it out in one dump. I was confident that it would be put out easily and right after I saw it... but over the course of the day the news kept updating to say that the fire was getting bigger.

I've spoken to fire fighters that said they had to wait on fires so they would get bigger and take longer to fight... because if they put them right out they wouldn't get paid as much. And I've seen cases where if a fire department didn't spend every cent they had over the course of a year they would buy all kinds of personal stuff so they wouldn't have their funding cut the next year.

All is not as it appears in fire fighting land.

I've had some fire fighting training, both in the military and privately, and I have some reservations about how governmental agencies work.
 
You bring up a great point. When I was young if we were on a fire we stayed on a fire. If we got a line around it at 4am we had better be back checking the line at 8am before the sun got hot and the fire was active. Seemed we had a lot of experience, lots less equipment, and lots smaller fires.
Why have you not already flown to Oregon to help Dave out? Surgeries and needed surgeries can wait! :cool:
 
Our cows are a couple miles southeast of the fire. The fire ran to the west.

Prayers for the safety of all that are heroically fighting this fire... You mentioned the house of the neighbor in the first pictures... did they manage to save them too? Bless them that worked so hard to save your place. The picture of the guy baling the hay on your way home from town, did they get it baled and the tractor/farmer and hay safe?
I hope that your cattle were able to find some protected spots... I know that there will be losses...
Please let us know if there is anything we can do....
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The fire didn't get to the neighbor's house. In fact it was a lot closer to mine than his. The guy baling hay is our cat skinner. That is where he was when he go the call. Last week his swather was parked in the middle of his first round. When the call comes you stop whatever you are doing and run. That field is on the good side of the river and irrigated. None of the irrigated fields burnt. Last night he was saying he didn't have to worry about baling the hay because he was only going to have 20 cows left. I told him not to worry because I figure he would have 25 cows left. They are all over on BLM where it hasn't burnt yet. The picture is the gate between us. Around 250 acres of his fall pasture 100% gone.

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Ya know, the consumer of fire fighting services have a complicated relationship with fire fighters. Many of us don't know much because we've never seen a fire being fought except on the news. We want to think the best, and we want to believe the best, but the eye-witness experiences I've had make me question what kind of thinking is going on.

In Reno I had a wildland fire truck pass me and get off the freeway a long way ahead of me. By the time I got up to the exit I could see a fire at some distance and the truck had pulled up close to it, the fire about the same size as the truck. No wind, just some pretty tall sage burning. As we passed by I commented to my wife that it was nice to see them get there so quickly so they could put out the fire right away. A couple of days later we passed coming back the way we had come and the entire mountain side was black.

Another time we heard there was a grass fire in a valley where we drove through frequently. We were on the road and passed where the fire was, and it looked to be covering a couple of acres. There were about six large firetrucks and bunch of personal pickups just downhill of the fire, and about forty guys standing around shooting the bull. It looked more like a kegger than firefighters looking for a way to put out a fire.

Another time the firefighters actually got questioned... because a bunch of multimillion dollar homes were destroyed when they failed to fight a fire early. I saw that fire too, up on the side of a mountain as I drove past early in the morning. It was a small fire too, and I remember thinking that a helicopter with a bucket could put it out in one dump. I was confident that it would be put out easily and right after I saw it... but over the course of the day the news kept updating to say that the fire was getting bigger.

I've spoken to fire fighters that said they had to wait on fires so they would get bigger and take longer to fight... because if they put them right out they wouldn't get paid as much. And I've seen cases where if a fire department didn't spend every cent they had over the course of a year they would buy all kinds of personal stuff so they wouldn't have their funding cut the next year.

All is not as it appears in fire fighting land.

I've had some fire fighting training, both in the military and privately, and I have some reservations about how governmental agencies work.
I was on a BLM fire truck out of Rock Springs WY in 1988 when Yellowstone burned. We didn't get to go to Yellowstone until late September because we had so many fires in our area and down into Craig CO and Vernal UT. We were usually initial attack and made every effort to get a handle on them before they blew up. I think I spent over 30 days camped out on fires that summer. I got tired of camping but we saved a bunch of money with per diem, hazard pay and overtime and nowhere to spend it. Yellowstone was interesting in the big fire camps. There were guys from inner city Milwaukee that said they got on through Job Corps, Indian crews from all over the West and National Guard. Quite an assortment of firefighters. By that time it was all mop up work just digging up hot spots and cooling them off.

I don't envy you Dave with a fire that close to everything you have. We have been under red flag warnings half the summer and last week a fire took about 5600 acres 20 miles from my place. It was a lightening strike and burned up mostly range land and some parts of wheat fields that were about ready to harvest. No structures or livestock lost, which was surprising.
 

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