Fence help please

[Cross-7]

I drove 4 hrs home and was mowing the lawn and had laundry going with plans of staying till Sunday.
I get a call from my neighbor and my cows have waded/swam the pond and are in his pasture.

My understanding this has been an issue forever.
It's pretty wide but silted it and not real deep during hot dry weather.
With bigs rains it over flows to another neighbor with a flood control lake so lots of water comes through.
Any type of permanent fence gets washed out.
When it's full it's too deep for electric fence and too deep for the cows to wade, but as soon as the water level get 4-5' deep the cows have a history of crossing

I can't fence the entire thing because the creek and 100 yard wide flood plane becomes a raging river when it rains heavy
He claims they fought it for years
I'm not interested in going to get cows or his on me

I'm thinking more of a floating rope barrier type something
Something not real expensive in case it gets washed away

Any better ideas ?

 

[Bigfoot]

55 gallon plastic barrels strung together? That'd be a bunch of barrels though. I can say cows ain't much on crossing them.

 

[True Grit Farms]

Your on the right track Cross_7. I put a a rope across my pond to stop the cows from getting into the garden, and it worked great. I used 3/8 black polly rope.

 

[callmefence]

Tough deal . I've got a similar deal on a lease place . the property line goes right through the middle of a lcra flood control lake. When full it puts a quarter mile of fence under water. Not as bad as yours because most of it just kinda back s in during a flood . the channel that has a raging flow is only about 100 feet.
I think everybody above is on the right track . maybe one of those buoy ropes like they use in big swimming pools.

 

[Cross-7]

Thanks
I'm thinking along the lines of a rope and an inexpensive alternative to this

 

[Kingfisher]

Bring in fill dirt ...

 

[City Guy]

How much grazing would you lose if you just fenced off the pond entirely, except for a small drinking spot?

 

[bmcdonald]

I would crossfence the flood area and rotate according to the weather and conditions of the boundary fence

 

[greybeard]

The only one I've ever had cross my pond is a bull--for the usual reason. Other than him, have never seen one of mine even in a pond except a newborn that somehow got into one of the pond's upper area and drowned.
I have 3 east west fences that are subject to high and fast moving flood water several times/year. Debris may pile up on them to 4th strand and lean them over a bit, but they have always held.

 

[Cross-7]

I've never built fence from a kayak before.
First time for everything.
My neighbor said its only 3-4' deep and he was right. It is close to the bank but in the middle it was almost over my head.

It's a eerie feeling went your dragging a kayak load with T-post through the water and something brushes your leg !

It would have been comforting to have someone with me
Being all alone and a storm blowing in with wind and lightning
I thought this might be my time

I couldn't find the rope I wanted and I'm short a 100' or so.
I have at least one more trip in and I hope it works and not a wasted effort

Edit to add I ran an electric wire across the top too
It's not hot yet but it can if need be

 

[greybeard]

I've never built fence from a kayak before.
First time for everything.
My neighbor said its only 3-4' deep and he was right. It is close to the bank but in the middle it was almost over my head.

It's a eerie feeling went your dragging a kayak load with T-post through the water and something brushes your leg !

It would have been comforting to have someone with me
Being all alone and a storm blowing in with wind and lightning
I thought this might be my time

Yeah--like you, most of us have done lots of things that looking back on, wonder how we didn't get ourselves killed. "Someone" looking after us I guess...

I drove a few tee posts from a wide vee bottom alum boat. Sure was hard to keep the boat next to the posts....on water, you really see the result of the "for every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction" law, and I already had the wire stretched across and tried to tie off to it. Boat just squirmed around under me every movement I made, and every shift of my weight.

On the bright side, you were probably never more than 6-10' from land....if, you measure straight down...

 

[Ouachita]

I've never built fence from a kayak before.
First time for everything.
My neighbor said its only 3-4' deep and he was right. It is close to the bank but in the middle it was almost over my head.

It's a eerie feeling went your dragging a kayak load with T-post through the water and something brushes your leg !

It would have been comforting to have someone with me
Being all alone and a storm blowing in with wind and lightning
I thought this might be my time

I couldn't find the rope I wanted and I'm short a 100' or so.
I have at least one more trip in and I hope it works and not a wasted effort

Edit to add I ran an electric wire across the top too
It's not hot yet but it can if need be

Years ago I had put 4 hogs on a peninsula that stuck out in my pond. The idea was, big willows for shade, full time water supply, and all I'd have to do was haul feed. Pond is large and water flows in/out year round. It is also deep with steep banks. I extended the wire panels several feet out into the pond. I really didn't think the pigs would swim around, but they eventually did. I had several hundred feet of black pipe (flexible irrigation type, a couple inches diameter). I capped the ends, fastened one end to one end of the wire panel, and waded out, pushing the floating pipe as I walked around the peninsula. This created a closed loop after fastening the other end to the other side of the wire panel fence.
The hogs would still swim, but they would not put their heads under water. They never got out again, until they self loaded in the trailer that fall.
You are correct; chest deep in water, hands full toting post, alone, and something brushes up against your leg.....
I think I posted about that experience here before. It required some liquid courage.

 

[cowboy43]

Why are you building the fence, shouldn't this be a joint venture with adjoining property owner?

 

[Cross-7]

I've never built fence from a kayak before.
First time for everything.
My neighbor said its only 3-4' deep and he was right. It is close to the bank but in the middle it was almost over my head.

It's a eerie feeling went your dragging a kayak load with T-post through the water and something brushes your leg !

It would have been comforting to have someone with me
Being all alone and a storm blowing in with wind and lightning
I thought this might be my time

Yeah--like you, most of us have done lots of things that looking back on, wonder how we didn't get ourselves killed. "Someone" looking after us I guess...

I drove a few tee posts from a wide vee bottom alum boat. Sure was hard to keep the boat next to the posts....on water, you really see the result of the "for every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction" law, and I already had the wire stretched across and tried to tie off to it. Boat just squirmed around under me every movement I made, and every shift of my weight.

On the bright side, you were probably never more than 6-10' from land....if, you measure straight down...

Yep that was the plan to sit on the kayak and drive them but the wind kept blowing me around

 

[Cross-7]

"Ouachita"
Years ago I had put 4 hogs on a peninsula that stuck out in my pond. The idea was, big willows for shade, full time water supply, and all I'd have to do was haul feed. Pond is large and water flows in/out year round. It is also deep with steep banks. I extended the wire panels several feet out into the pond. I really didn't think the pigs would swim around, but they eventually did. I had several hundred feet of black pipe (flexible irrigation type, a couple inches diameter). I capped the ends, fastened one end to one end of the wire panel, and waded out, pushing the floating pipe as I walked around the peninsula. This created a closed loop after fastening the other end to the other side of the wire panel fence.
The hogs would still swim, but they would not put their heads under water. They never got out again, until they self loaded in the trailer that fall.
You are correct; chest deep in water, hands full toting post, alone, and something brushes up against your leg.....
I think I posted about that experience here before. It required some liquid courage.

I thought about drinking a couple beers and studying on it but I thought if I drown people will think I just got drunk and fell out the boat and drowned

 

[Cross-7]

Why are you building the fence, shouldn't this be a joint venture with adjoining property owner?

I wondered that same thing when I was buying 8' T-post
I guess cause my cows got on him and his hadn't gone anywhere but at least I know how the blame falls now

 

[Stocker Steve]

Built a 2 strand high tensile.
It catches very little debris.
Cattle really respect electivity when they are standing in water. Need a switch to turn off electricity when water is high.

 

[Cross-7]

Built a 2 strand high tensile.
It catches very little debris.
Cattle really respect electivity when they are standing in water. Need a switch to turn off electricity when water is high.

I knew the 14ga electric I was using would rust out
I was thinking two strand smooth twisted wire but high tensile would be better

 

[Cross-7]

One more time

 

[callmefence]

Had some galvanized t post left over off a ncrs
Job That I used on my underwater fence.

Your plenty game cross. I cuss a lot but I've never missed a payroll. ;-) .....just saying good help is he11 to find.