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Nope> need lush green grass and rain to raise army worms. :P Don't even see and grasshoppers and I think the wind keeps the mosquitos blown away also. Seems like we can't grow anything any more. Sure is getting old not having anything positive to post. :( Going to be a long season if you are having to fight worms already. Makes one wish October would hurry and get here. :nod:
 
1982vett":2k2tqmj7 said:
Nope> need lush green grass and rain to raise army worms. :P Don't even see and grasshoppers and I think the wind keeps the mosquitos blown away also. Seems like we can't grow anything any more. Sure is getting old not having anything positive to post. :( Going to be a long season if you are having to fight worms already. Makes one wish October would hurry and get here. :nod:
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That's a bad situation to be in. Its like sitting on a razor. We are really dry here too and this is the only really green grass I have. I got lucky, and got three inches of rain on it two hours after I put out the fertilizer. Its T85 and I think there was a lot of residual fertilizer on site and it really grew. I was hoping that I could get another rain on it last week but it went around us. If I could get just a half inch on it I should have some good body to it and I'm hoping to cut around six or seven rolls to the acre. I think it will do 5 now but I'm looking for volume right now to cut down on the per roll fertilizer cost. (This will be my second cutting and I normally would be on my fourth or fifth - so its dry.)
 
Understand the fertilizer per roll cost. Kind of got out of hand this year on my own stuff. I was lucky enough to sell some hay for $70 a roll several weeks ago. Sounds good until like today, I put out 5 rolls for my own cows. So that would make my feed bill $300 today. Gets kind of pricey.

As I have said before, I'm thankful that I have so much hay left from last years abundance and it was not in my plans to bale more acerage than I did. It was a bit disappointing that it didn't produce as expected but everyone in the area had the same results. Spring grasses just did not do well this year.

I remember you were dry before we were so I'm hoping that since you are getting some rain now, maybe we will start getting some too. Looked at the 10-day forcast a while ago. Isolated showers are in the forcast for 8 of the next 10 days but then a direct hit from a tropcal storm could only produce a quarter of an inch for us.
 
We started getting some rain at the first of the dod days. I thought maybe the cycle would break but the rain quit. They are calling for a 70 percent chance Tuesday but they called for that last Wednesday and we didn't get a drop. Thankfully I have plenty of millet but its about time for it to start declining especially if we don't get some rain. You just can't do anything without rain.

I'm hearing hay will sell for $50-$70/roll here. But I doubt many people will have any to sell. There will probably be plenty of peanut hay though since fertilizer costs went up so.
 
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Mowed a field Sat that had a few streaks of them in it. It sent shivers down my back on what could of happened. It was a good feeling running them through the conditioner. :lol: I was suprised to see them because it's been very hot upper 90's but getting pm thunderstorms.
 
celestina farm":13g7n93s said:
Mowed a field Sat that had a few streaks of them in it. It sent shivers down my back on what could of happened. It was a good feeling running them through the conditioner. :lol: I was suprised to see them because it's been very hot upper 90's but getting pm thunderstorms.
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Runnning over them feels about as good as watching them wiggle, dance and squirm 30 minutes after getting a dose of Lorsban. The site sure is gratifying.
 
yall could have armyworms into oct.if you have any grass be ready to start spraying them.ive seen them wipe out a wheat crop.an have to reoplant the whole thing.
 
Nope> need lush green grass and rain to raise army worms.
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You must have a different type of Armyworm than us. I have seen them in very dry, almost dead, grass on many occasions. Plus usually when a good rain comes, they're gone for awhile.

Don't ever think they won't eat Bahia either.............
 
Had to spray this weekend. Saw alot of birds, but only found a few small worms. Looks like they might just be starting to hatch out. Went ahead and sprayed 2 of my hay fields with some seven. I would have done the other 2 I have, but I ran out of seven.

Has anyone used malathion for army worms? I have heard it works and it is cheaper than the seven spray.
 
Jogeephus":2jy6slaq said:
We started getting some rain at the first of the dod days. I thought maybe the cycle would break but the rain quit. They are calling for a 70 percent chance Tuesday but they called for that last Wednesday and we didn't get a drop. Thankfully I have plenty of millet but its about time for it to start declining especially if we don't get some rain. You just can't do anything without rain.

I'm hearing hay will sell for $50-$70/roll here. But I doubt many people will have any to sell. There will probably be plenty of peanut hay though since fertilizer costs went up so.
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I hope it gets somewhere close to that here. Too many people who have no idea what it costs them to put up hay. Spring cutting made gobs of hay, but it cost a fortune between fertilizer and fuel. I've already heard of a few folks selling unfertilized mixed grass for $18-$22 per roll when the custom cutters are charging $17 to cut, rake, and roll it. I'm trying to get started on a shed to store it in, but I'll let it rot before I sell it for half price.
 
MikeC":16nctuq4 said:
Nope> need lush green grass and rain to raise army worms.
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You must have a different type of Armyworm than us. I have seen them in very dry, almost dead, grass on many occasions. Plus usually when a good rain comes, they're gone for awhile.

Don't ever think they won't eat Bahia either.............
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MikeC, how about if I restate it like this, Nope> need grass and rain to raise army worms :???: :)
I remember a few years back they started showing up in the spring when we started cutting ryegrass. By the time we got to the last 15 acres a week or so later, their wasn't much more left than just the stem.
 
Onthebit":1bbms0bh said:
What in heck are they? What do they look like? :shock:
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Here's a pretty good article on them with some good pictures of worms and damage.

http://www.aces.edu/pubs/docs/A/ANR-1019/ANR-1019.pdf

Seems to me they normally come out of the ground near a full moon. They will rise by the thousands and march like an army across your grass. Seems they normally come into the field from the edge of a woodline but that's just my observation. Sunday, I had a bunch of little ones and a good many big ones. Didn't realize how many I had till I sprayed them.

I've seen them in all grasses but they especially like fast growing leafy grass like bermuda grass being grown for hay. They can eat all your grass in very short order but the cow birds will help you identify where they are cause they love them.
 
I had some last month but have not seen any yet this month. fortunately I only have one field that has not been cut in the last two weeks so they won't have much to eat around here.
 
Has anyone ever used that spray that is supposed to give a 30 day control on army worms? Can't remember the name but I think it messed up the molting or something. I always use 7 or lorsban but was considering trying this other stuff but I don't know anyone that has used it. I always have worms this time of year.
 
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