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My neighbor gave me a three day old calf, she can't handle him due to her age. He was born on Sat night or sun morning. Wouldn't stand so she's pretty sure he didn't get colostrum right after birth. She took him to the vet the following Monday 1-31 (not looking at notes so dates maybe off) vet said he had constricted tendons. Milked his mom and tubed him. My husband (after research) put on half splints and we got him up walking. This was on Tues. Wed he seemed to be having labored breathing. Fri. back to the vet and they gave him a shot to loosen tendons. Sun he seemed ok and was teying to eat. Breathing still labored. After alot of reading and searching we decided to do penicillin, as I have no baytril and didn't have time to order any. We gave him three shots on Mon Tues and Wed (half of what was called for because he's not well). We've given him a small dose of JumpStart, a vit B shot and some probios (spread out over a week). He can hardly suckle, been tube fed 4 times now by vet while we steady try to get him to suckle, getting maybe a pint a feeding in him. We cannot tube and won't risk drowning him. Thursday 2-4 took him back to vet to see if they could show me how to tube. (That was a no-go understanably) Vet gave him baytril and a steroid (tongue hangs out while he's trying to eat). Vet said its an illness (cant remember name) but he's got a very mild case so he should come out of it. Got him home and he refused to eat or move and we really thought we would lose him that night. Today he barely ate but he's giving it his all to try. We're still trying to get his strength up so he can get a better grasp. His head is always hanging low and he will only walk for about five mins before he lays down again. This baby is a weak little guy and we're utilizing the vet with tubing. I can't afford to do this forever so I need suggestions on how to get him to suckle so I can get him stronger. I tried molasses, and a small amount of caro syrup no results. Tried a goat nipple, didn't work, tried a pail also. He simply can't seem to get a handle on that bottle. We even tried to put him back with his momma but she wouldn't take him. Any suggestions? Anything at all that might help me get this baby up and running? Sorry for long post, trying to give as much info as possible. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance.
 
Did the vet try selenium? It's used for "white muscle disease". We generally give it to weak/dumb sucker calves.
 
dun":3migp86r said:
Did the vet try selenium? It's used for "white muscle disease". We generally give it to weak/dumb sucker calves.

+1. BoSe shot. Definitely wont hurt. Shot of Dex wouldn't hurt either.
 
To the best of my knowledge he hasn't been given any selenium. Can I purchase the Bose and Dex or do I get it from the vet?
 
Thank you. I'll call the vet and ask him about this. Hopefully it's what we're needing to help him out.
 
Craig we did that, it does help alot.
Dun, I certainly will. Thank you all for the advice.
 
Got home this evening and went to feed. He has this raspy sound in his throat. Could he possibly have pneumonia and the vet hasn't picked up on it? I've not seen them do anything to him aside from feed and the shots. Any thoughts on this? (Calling a new vet first thing tomorrow.) I think more than "patience and persistence" is required for him.
 
With a really large whole in the nipple, there is a chance he inhaled some milk into his lungs. Don;t know the fancy term for it. I would sure treat him for penumonia
 
If you are feeding milk replacer, it should be a minimum of 20% fat and 20% protein and all milk and milk byproducts. NO SOY
 
It has 24% protein, minimum. 24% crude fat, minimum. Its called Ultra 24. Don't see soy anywhere in ingredient list.
 
Here's something I didn't mention in original post (a lot going on with him)
When he's trying to eat he keeps the nipple on one side of his mouth with his tongue hanging out the other side. As we are feeding we have to keep moving his tongue under the nipple and moving the nipple to the center of his mouth to try and help him get a better grip. That's the issue the vet saw and said he had that illness. (Going to ask what she called it)
 
dun":2m6g5mfe said:
With a really large whole in the nipple, there is a chance he inhaled some milk into his lungs. Don;t know the fancy term for it. I would sure treat him for penumonia
Aspiration pneumonia is the term that I believe you are looking for.

When you start them on the bottle, it helps to straddle them and cup your hand around their lower jaw and bottle holding them together and keeping the nipple centered in the mouth. We call that a " dummy calf" that can't seem to get the hang of nursing and wrap their tongue on the nipple creating suction. Most usually will eventually catch on with persistence.

It sounds like you may be dealing with aspiration pneumonia, which is very easy to cause wrangling to get them to suck or tubing them.
 
I used to raise baby dairy calves, 80-100 per year, got most of them at 3 days old. It was common for them to have various issues, most of which resulted in loss of appetite and or scours. I became fairly proficient at tube feeding them, although admittedly each time is a bit nerve wracking. You may already be giving the calf electrolytes, but if not it would probably be beneficial. I have good results with a product called Re-sorb.
 
BarbG":i9h6kqkq said:
Here's something I didn't mention in original post (a lot going on with him)
When he's trying to eat he keeps the nipple on one side of his mouth with his tongue hanging out the other side. As we are feeding we have to keep moving his tongue under the nipple and moving the nipple to the center of his mouth to try and help him get a better grip. That's the issue the vet saw and said he had that illness. (Going to ask what she called it)
The tongue deal is what made me mention white muscle
 
branguscowgirl":3n9za39b said:
Aspiration pneumonia is the term that I believe you are looking for.
Glad there are some smart people on these boards.
 
dun":3phsm63o said:
branguscowgirl":3phsm63o said:
Aspiration pneumonia is the term that I believe you are looking for.
Glad there are some smart people on these boards.
Everyone here is "smart" Dun. Just maybe on varying subjects. There are a lot of things/words that excape my mind, that I know what they are, but can't remember the term for the life of me! Today I tried my bank PIN number 6 times before I remembered it! Surprised the ATM didn't eat my card! :roll:
 
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