Dick cheney
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I too agree that our VP is a hunter, and gun owner. If anyone has been a hunter longe enough, accidents WILL happen , and hopefully they will not be too bad. I am sure the gun veto, and animal rights people will be all over this.
Crowderfarms
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I see you're new here and I dont want to step on your boot too hard BUT,I've hunted since I was a kid, and NEVER had a hunting accident.Most Hunting accidents are preventable, and the one's that do occur usually are contributed by a high degree of, let's use the proper phrase "Lack of judgement" or absence thereof.Limomike":3g6kwcik said:
Limomike":r5ai45xq said:
Couldn;t disagree more. Occasioanlly something completely out of ones control does happen, a part breaks or a series of things all combine to make it happen. But the majority of the hunters I've known and have dealt with have never had any sort of accident and that includes accidental discharges.
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milesvb
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You know the accident (it wasn't deliberate) doesn't bother me as much as the fact that they were hunting without the required game bird stamp. I wonder if they just weren't aware they needed one? In that case the guide was at fault for not checking and of course hunters should know the laws of the state they choose to hunt in, but if they just chose not to get the stamp for whatever reason then that's a different story. The law is the law no matter who you are. Has anyone heard what the reason was for them not having the stamp?
Conagher
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I normally would not weigh in on these discussions, but my 10 year old son came home last night asking specific questions about the "accident" since the kids and teachers were discussing it at school. Timely event because even though he has been shooting for years (real nice 8 point this year), I am just now letting him go out on his own with rifle and/or shotgun to hunt squirrels, rabbits, hogs, etc.
My comment to him was I did not feel this was an "accident", but rather negligence on the part of the shooter. By my definition accidents are unpreventable. This inceident was preventable. Primary rule of firearm safety is muzzle control. The shooter is responsible for the discharge of the weapon in a safe manner, regardless of whether or not someone walks up unannounced. Others may disagree, but at least it might keep me from getting shot next time I hunt with my boy.
My comment to him was I did not feel this was an "accident", but rather negligence on the part of the shooter. By my definition accidents are unpreventable. This inceident was preventable. Primary rule of firearm safety is muzzle control. The shooter is responsible for the discharge of the weapon in a safe manner, regardless of whether or not someone walks up unannounced. Others may disagree, but at least it might keep me from getting shot next time I hunt with my boy.
cherokeeruby
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A6gal":3vyg4335 said:
He asked his staff to get all the required hunting licenses, they contacted the Texas Game and Fishing people. And they got all the licenses suggested. Apparently it was an error on the part of the Texas agency.
Well at least it wasn't a deliberate oversight on the VP's part.
My last post didn't sound quite right. It does bother me that someone was injured in the accident. I just feel it was negligence from both parties.
It would bother me to know our VP was trying to get around the laws we all have to abide by to save a few dollars. I'm glad to know that wasn't the case.
My last post didn't sound quite right. It does bother me that someone was injured in the accident. I just feel it was negligence from both parties.
It would bother me to know our VP was trying to get around the laws we all have to abide by to save a few dollars. I'm glad to know that wasn't the case.
Saltydawg
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IMO it was negligence on both of their parts.
If you're bird hunting with others you simply don't walk into an area that is likely to be shot over.
If your bird hunting with other people you better make darn sure nobody is in your shot path before pulling the trigger.
If either person had done their part this wouldn't have happened.
Luckily it turned out to be a relatively minor injury considering the situation....Cheney is gonna suffer more in the press than the lawyer is in the hospital it appears.
If you're bird hunting with others you simply don't walk into an area that is likely to be shot over.
If your bird hunting with other people you better make darn sure nobody is in your shot path before pulling the trigger.
If either person had done their part this wouldn't have happened.
Luckily it turned out to be a relatively minor injury considering the situation....Cheney is gonna suffer more in the press than the lawyer is in the hospital it appears.
Craig-TX
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Just got to this thread after seeing the other. Looks like several participants have never hunted quail. If you're in good quail with good dogs you can easily walk/run 20 miles in a day. If you're middle aged or older you're going to get in a pickup between covey rises. You work the dogs from the pickup. When they find birds you get out and walk through the dogs and work the birds. You will still do plenty of miles of walking in a day of hunting like this. There is nothing un-sportsmanlike about hunting quail like that. Some folks use gun-broke mules, some use pickups. Nobody hunts quail on foot all day long.
aplusmnt
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Chuckie":31u3stq3 said:
I am sure the numbers would have risen, I believe Kerry and Edwards are both Lawyers. I bet if they would have thought of it they would have shot a lawyer during the elections!
What is the limit on Lawyers down there in Texas? I was wondering after getting one did Chenney go on and fill his limit?
milesvb
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aplusmnt":3ovhcmjm said:
no closed season, no bag limit, can not be taken within 500 yards of an ambulance ;-)
Arnold Ziffle
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From an email I received yesterday:
Press Release
(02/14/06)
The Texas Parks and Wildlife Department issued a statement today saying Vice President Cheney broke no law by shooting a lawyer instead of a quail over the weekend.
A TPWD spokesman noted that, in Texas, lawyers are not considered game creatures, and are thus not subject to seasonal limitations or bag limits. It was further noted that lawyer hunting was encouraged as the state is overrun with the pesky creatures.
A local food critic said that, contrary to rumor, lawyers do not
taste like chicken, but rather like bovine dung which is a major
component of their composition
Press Release
(02/14/06)
The Texas Parks and Wildlife Department issued a statement today saying Vice President Cheney broke no law by shooting a lawyer instead of a quail over the weekend.
A TPWD spokesman noted that, in Texas, lawyers are not considered game creatures, and are thus not subject to seasonal limitations or bag limits. It was further noted that lawyer hunting was encouraged as the state is overrun with the pesky creatures.
A local food critic said that, contrary to rumor, lawyers do not
taste like chicken, but rather like bovine dung which is a major
component of their composition
lakading
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