Hey they are just down the road from me!Katpau":5g8ut18x said:Tehama Angus of Gerber California are part owners and have been using this bull heavily for a number of years. They have a quite a number of daughters in production. Check out their website at http://tehamaangus.com/ I am sure that if you called they would answer any questions you might have. I think they would be very honest with you.