Could you survive

[Stocker Steve]

Some of the big thinkers feel an eventual big event is something/some group taking down the credit system. So credit or debit cards most people rely on will not work, and paper money ATMs will go dry quickly...

Ammo due to the very reason you listed in Rita there were desperate people that operate in a plastic world.
I saw National Guard troops in almost every store that was open and it was cash only, that is where it got nasty.
I had a diesel generator to run the house went through 400 gallons in a month. The only reason I could do that is I filled the 600 gallon tank before landing

Got the ammo and 1500 gallons, but short on toilet paper. What currency would be the cheapest wipe?

 

[Stocker Steve]

I think it was Ron that laughed at the idea of toilet paper, but that would be a big asset. A pack of 12 would be worth a small fortune to most people.

Aaron - - Do you have some fishing tackle set aside for when you get tired of Certified Hereford Beef?

 

[TennesseeTuxedo]

Some of the big thinkers feel an eventual big event is something/some group taking down the credit system. So credit or debit cards most people rely on will not work, and paper money ATMs will go dry quickly...

Ammo due to the very reason you listed in Rita there were desperate people that operate in a plastic world.
I saw National Guard troops in almost every store that was open and it was cash only, that is where it got nasty.
I had a diesel generator to run the house went through 400 gallons in a month. The only reason I could do that is I filled the 600 gallon tank before landing

Got the ammo and 1500 gallons, but short on toilet paper. What currency would be the cheapest wipe?

Not the cheapest but I'd buy Charmin, that should trade at a premium.

 

[Aaron]

Some of the big thinkers feel an eventual big event is something/some group taking down the credit system. So credit or debit cards most people rely on will not work, and paper money ATMs will go dry quickly...

Ammo due to the very reason you listed in Rita there were desperate people that operate in a plastic world.
I saw National Guard troops in almost every store that was open and it was cash only, that is where it got nasty.
I had a diesel generator to run the house went through 400 gallons in a month. The only reason I could do that is I filled the 600 gallon tank before landing

Got the ammo and 1500 gallons, but short on toilet paper. What currency would be the cheapest wipe?

The cheap gas station single ply would be the equivalent of 10,000 Iranian Rials (and you would probably get a better wipe with the Rial).

The Charmin Ultra 4 ply would be worth at least one Grant.

 

[HDRider]

Remember, we don't have the Sears catalog any more.

 

[TennesseeTuxedo]

Remember, we don't have the Sears catalog any more.

Hard to wipe with an iPad.

 

[Aaron]

I think it was Ron that laughed at the idea of toilet paper, but that would be a big asset. A pack of 12 would be worth a small fortune to most people.

Aaron - - Do you have some fishing tackle set aside for when you get tired of Certified Hereford Beef?

Not me. I'll take red meat over fish any day. The older I get, the less I want to eat anything out of the water. Everyone flushes their drugs down the toilet and they all end up in the same place and in the marine food supply.

 

[backhoeboogie]

Some of the big thinkers feel an eventual big event is something/some group taking down the credit system. So credit or debit cards most people rely on will not work, and paper money ATMs will go dry quickly...

Ammo due to the very reason you listed in Rita there were desperate people that operate in a plastic world.
I saw National Guard troops in almost every store that was open and it was cash only, that is where it got nasty.
I had a diesel generator to run the house went through 400 gallons in a month. The only reason I could do that is I filled the 600 gallon tank before landing

Got the ammo and 1500 gallons, but short on toilet paper. What currency would be the cheapest wipe?

Your old ragged shirt cut into strips.

 

[backhoeboogie]

Nobody really has a clue because we have never had to face it. All we have are stories from many years ago which would not necessarily transfer to today.

3.7 million people living off grid right now would argue with you.

 

[greybeard]

Remember, we don't have the Sears catalog any more.

Don't need it. Enough dam circulars/ad papers/paper equivalent of robo calls come in the mail each year to make 10 S&R catalogs.

 

[TexasBred]

Nobody really has a clue because we have never had to face it. All we have are stories from many years ago which would not necessarily transfer to today.

3.7 million people living off grid right now would argue with you.

"Off the grid" simple means not using public utilities. Wonder how many still take advantage of many of the other good old modern conveniences. We're not talking about living permanently without utilities. We're talking about living "Post apocalyptic war" where those "choices" disappear.

 

[True Grit Farms]

Nobody really has a clue because we have never had to face it. All we have are stories from many years ago which would not necessarily transfer to today.

3.7 million people living off grid right now would argue with you.

"Off the grid" simple means not using public utilities. Wonder how many still take advantage of many of the other good old modern conveniences. We're not talking about living permanently without utilities. We're talking about living "Post apocalyptic war" where those "choices" disappear.

Living off grid without propane wouldn't be any fun. I like the way it is right now, let's try and not screw it up to much.

 

[cowgirl8]

Don't you just hate when the electricity goes out for several hours and all you do is think of things you could do while its out but, nope, takes electricity...and every time you go into a room, you flip the light switch....Same with water, if the water is off, i'll go to wash my hands 100 times.....

 

[dieselbeef]

likely ill be getting a propane whole house generator this weekend. its hurricane season

 

[greybeard]

Shhhh you!
We don't say the H word.

 

[backhoeboogie]

Nobody really has a clue because we have never had to face it. All we have are stories from many years ago which would not necessarily transfer to today.

3.7 million people living off grid right now would argue with you.

"Off the grid" simple means not using public utilities. Wonder how many still take advantage of many of the other good old modern conveniences. We're not talking about living permanently without utilities. We're talking about living "Post apocalyptic war" where those "choices" disappear.

I won't be running out and crafting a crock water bottle or spinning cotton into thread.

The soles of my shoes will wear out. Eventually.

 

[BK9954]

I could survive until the mobs of city rioters swarm the countryside looking for food and water and they overtook me and the family.

 

[RanchMan90]

They can have my guns. Bullets first!

 

[Caustic Burno]

I could survive until the mobs of city rioters swarm the countryside looking for food and water and they overtook me and the family.

That is the problem with being isolated
guess you would have to figure out IED's cause you got to sleep sometimes.
Secondly sure be easy pickings checking your stuff by yourself.

 

[Dave]

I lived for the better part of a year up on the Olympic Peninsula. We were 3 miles from power. It was like going back to the 20's or so. Wood cook stove, wood heat, kerosene lamps, a hand pump on the back porch, an ice box, and an out house. It wasn't all that difficult. The biggest problem would not be keeping myself alive and well. Or even comfortable. The problem would be those millions of people who can't feed themselves.
We have had wide spread power outages that last over a week with no adverse issues. Lots of wining and crying by the city people but no panic.