updateSon of Butch":5so7gf26 said:Chicago Market
7/14/16 Corn closed at 3.81
7/14/17 Corn closed at 3.65
trading range for the last 12 months has been from 3.41 - 3.92
2 different market forecasters have projected new crop December 2017 corn in the 4.40 - 4.70 range
I think they are full of xxxx...
but my wild guess is maybe we'll be seeing 4.30 corn in 2018
Son of Butch":31stz6ii said:update
12/14/17 Corn 3.36
July 2018 Corn futures 3.65
3.36 vs 4.40 December corn = Market 'experts' were only off by $1.04 (31%)
I'm taming down my optimistic 4.30 corn in 2018 to 3.81 hoping for spring run up back to 2016 July Corn prices.
Son of Butch":3427prns said:You're just mean... ... but would have been better off renting out the crop land the last 2 years.
What phase is the moon in???Son of Butch":1dy8ozrw said:updateSon of Butch":1dy8ozrw said:Chicago Market
7/14/16 Corn closed at 3.81
7/14/17 Corn closed at 3.65
trading range for the last 12 months has been from 3.41 - 3.92
2 different market forecasters have projected new crop December 2017 corn in the 4.40 - 4.70 range
I think they are full of xxxx...
but my wild guess is maybe we'll be seeing 4.30 corn in 2018
12/14/17 Corn 3.36
July 2018 Corn futures 3.65
3.36 vs 4.40 December corn = Market 'experts' were only off by $1.04 (31%)
I'm taming down my optimistic 4.30 corn in 2018 to 3.81 hoping for spring run up back to 2016 July Corn prices
Right now grain bin doors are welded shut until at least March expecting prices to slowly grind upwards till June.
ddd75":at1bi5xv said:paying 250 - 300 / ac for crop ground here still.
Stocker Steve":3o3rrlu9 said:ddd75":3o3rrlu9 said:paying 250 - 300 / ac for crop ground here still.
I was offered 77 acres for $50 each last month, and it does not pencil out.
ddd75":12obrbvl said:Stocker Steve":12obrbvl said:ddd75":12obrbvl said:paying 250 - 300 / ac for crop ground here still.
I was offered 77 acres for $50 each last month, and it does not pencil out.
yea I don't understand it. They are even advertising in the paper wanting ground.
Stocker Steve":1tb3uwfr said:ddd75":1tb3uwfr said:Stocker Steve":1tb3uwfr said:I was offered 77 acres for $50 each last month, and it does not pencil out.
yea I don't understand it. They are even advertising in the paper wanting ground.
A few think their time and equipment are free.
A few skimp on fertilizer and spray, and then walk away from mined out soil after a couple years.
A few are really good, and have yields way above the county average.
Mainstream is selling cropping technology hard as a way to become profitable. Better seed, more seed treatments, spendy pre emerge mixes, better drainage, better seed positioning, variable rate, higher & variable population, multi hybrid planters... I assume this technology can pencil out with a certain size operation and a certain soil productivity and $5 corn. Here, at current prices, much of it will just increase your loss/acre. The revenue is not there.
We have gone back to the future. Lots of legumes, long crop rotations based on forage, walking feed off the place... I refused to plant corn this spring. We made a decent profit on beans even after a land charge. We will show a modest profit overall, and improved soil OM. :cboy: Time to go feed calves with my 5 gallon TMR.
littletom":1dorksf5 said:I don't see crop ground going back to grass here just to much time and money to put back, and the fence is gone. And not much money per acre, I put some back at 130 a acre and 2 years to get right to graze. Can lease it for 140 that makes more sense than the 2 acres it cost to graze a pair.
littletom":2hqpcvm6 said:I'll keep growing smokes for a job and running cows on the side.