alacattleman
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scoff if you will,, its good to see cattle that can distribute feed outside of the gutt and convert it too flesh... but he$# they aint mine :cowboy:
Jovid":1ifomftz said:The Gelbvieh bull Governor was known to produce over 300 per collection session
We just had one of ours collected and he had over 500 straws first go round. This was after breeding 40 + cows all summer. The collection people could not believe it.
luckefarm":1y6ownbh said:he is a club calf. If you go back far enough in his dams pedigree it goes back to a purebred bf. not sure what that is braford maybe here is the animal registration: http://herdbook.simmental.org/simmapp/a ... 15036+++++
i could not find an angus association registration duff cattle co. list his dam as high percentage angus
cattle.com lists him as a maine anjou/club calf http://www.cattle.com/semen/bulls/Duff+ ... +6626.aspx
the simmental asssoc also has the bull registered at USAAM not sure of that association either any ideas?
when i figure it out i believe that it comes to 63/64ths angus
cattleman99":3jqrcrwp said:He isn't Simmental. He's all Angus. Checked his numbers. Not very impressive. Not sure what everyone is seeing in him. Looks like just another Black bull to me. Wouldn't work around my place. Don't see him working very well on Black Simmentals either. The Black Simmentals need to increase there milk numbers not drop them.
Lucky_P":2m5h4jwd said:That said, his epds sure don't intrigue me any - whether I was breeding Angus heifers or Simmental cows. I don't necessarily need a BW that low; WW/YW are crappy, API and TI suggest his steers won't be all that great, and neither will his daughters.
Jake":ygeb19vf said:Coming from somebody in the know as to Tim Ohlde's numbering system and how it pertains to this bull hereI go:
The bull is a small percentage BEEF FRIESIAN. In other words he descends from amerifax on the female side. This is the composite aspect of most of the OCC cattle and as others have stated (and stated correctly) he originates from the Angus II herd at OCC. Logic and reasoning would help you to trace parentage quite accurately on this bull.
He is registered with the ASA because they like many smaller breeds are open when it comes to allowing perecentage breeding and registration. He in my understanding was registered as a parent animal witht he ASA and that is where they get the low BW.
As far as I'm concerned on the quality of the bull... You probably can't find a closer to perfect phenotypical bull and the daughters that he produces would be very,very, very hard to beat.
The other 1/16 has to be or have Simmental or why else would the American Simmental Assn. have him registered in their inventory