redcowsrule33
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5% of GDP but 100% have to eat. It is not smart to contract out your food security to other nations but many are in the name of greenhouse gas reduction.
So many people are so far removed from any knowledge of food production and they've now grown up two or three generations of having everything they could want or need to eat a grocery store close them. They don't have enough sense or care to think enough about how the food gets there to even connect the the dots between agriculture and the grocery store.I've actually seen a video where some young economist said agriculture is not important because it's only 5% of the GDP. Looks like everyone has this urban-centric view and it's getting worse.
Yeah definitely not a good national security plan to be dependent on importing food from other countries.5% of GDP but 100% have to eat. It is not smart to contract out your food security to other nations but many are in the name of greenhouse gas reduction.
That's something we don't hear much about in this country. We always hear about why we are dependent on China, but not much about how they are dependent on us. I'd like to know more.China imports a big chunk of their food and energy. What happens to them if someone can choke off the Malaca strait?
Any blue water navy can do it
Nothing. Malacca Strait is between Indonesia, Sumatra, and Singapore. It might affect India, but certainly not mainland China.China imports a big chunk of their food and energy. What happens to them if someone can choke off the Malaca strait?
THAT is who has been fighting it! JBS, Tyson, and etc.. and they in turn lobby the gov'ts in mexico, brazil, etc to do something about itThe big companies have been fighting this and i didn't expect it to pass.
Wouldn't it be a major shipping lane east and west regardless if a country was east of it or west of it? China must get things from the Mediterranean, Suez Canal, Red Sea, and through the Malacca Strait.Nothing. Malacca Strait is between Indonesia and Singapore. It might affect India, but certainly not mainland China.
Always makes me wonder in all this global warming hysteria that we import AND export beef. It doesn't make a lot of sense to me. I always wonder about the logistics when I see two semis full of hay pass each other going in opposite directions. I always wonder if truckers laugh when they deliver hay they've driven and delivered 500 miles from home... and then they pick up a load of hay to be delivered to the same area they came from with the first load.THAT is who has been fighting it! JBS, Tyson, and etc.. and they in turn lobby the gov'ts in mexico, brazil, etc to do something about it
Here in canada a lot of our beef is from argentina, etc.. WHY??? we have plenty of beef.. I guess they say our product gets premiums when shipped overseas.. don't know how much truth there is to that, but it's certain that the import beef sure makes the importers rich
It's actually far worse than just an urban-centric view. Why is the stock market is an economic indicator, when 65% of all trades are done by computers using algorithms in real time (computers are next to the stock exchange, with all of their cables exactly the same length) Another 15% of all trades are done by day traders running 1.5 to 2.5 seconds behind the big boys, leaving only 15% of trades actually being investments in the companies. Adding to that, 85% of all jobs are either service or entertainment.I've actually seen a video where some young economist said agriculture is not important because it's only 5% of the GDP. Looks like everyone has this urban-centric view and it's getting worse.
I've actually seen a video where some young economist said agriculture is not important because it's only 5% of the GDP. Looks like everyone has this urban-centric view and it's getting worse.
I'm in an educational group based out of Canada and we had a discussion on this. Canada actually has COOL and they are concerned about the amount of meat in stores coming out of Mexico at a lower price than Canadian beef. Those producers are baffled as to why the USA doesn't have COOL.It was 'on the books' but pulled off because of a world court decision that ruled as it previously worded, violated existing trade agreements with Canada and Mexico. Both those countries took the USA into court over it. Probably will again too.
I'm in an educational group based out of Canada and we had a discussion on this. Canada actually has COOL and they are concerned about the amount of meat in stores coming out of Mexico at a lower price than Canadian beef. Those producers are baffled as to why the USA doesn't have COOL.
Seems that if the UN was actually serious about solving hunger and health problems, one of the first things they should push it preventing countries with hunger problems from exporting food until their citizens were fed. Instead, it's all about "global economy" based around what is good for the global corporations.
If I remember correctly, their was a mass exodus of US ranchers to South and Central America 15 years ago or so because of the potential of wealth when exporting back to the US. There were a few of those ranchers on these boards at one point.Don't forget that the King Ranch and many other large US based operations have land in South America because of the cheap operating costs. I am sure they are not happy about this.
Malacca strait is way too far to the south to affect mainland China very much.Wouldn't it be a major shipping lane east and west regardless if a country was east of it or west of it? China must get things from the Mediterranean, Suez Canal, Red Sea, and through the Malacca Strait.
Yeah, I was just thinking about any kind of European markets...Malacca strait is way too far to the south to affect mainland China very much.
It's the shipping lane that leads/comes from India, Sri lanka, Bangladesh and Mayanmar/Burma but China's primary lane to the developed high consuming nations is thru what we used to call the Formosa Strait. Taiwan now I suppose. (not to imply Australia isn't a highly developed nation!)
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They shouldn't be, since Canada was cohorts in dragging the last US country of origin labeling into the World Court.I'm in an educational group based out of Canada and we had a discussion on this. Canada actually has COOL and they are concerned about the amount of meat in stores coming out of Mexico at a lower price than Canadian beef. Those producers are baffled as to why the USA doesn't have COOL.