Nesikep
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Got some mild contracted tendons is seems.. he'll get over that pretty quick though.
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I went out and pulled his legs out in front of him while he was laying down, and pushed down on his knee, and pulled up on his hoof. It doesn't seem to bother him that I am messing with his legs. I did this a few times during the day and I could see a change from the morning to late this afternoon. He'll be over it in a couple of days.
Nesikep
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My steer Lazyboy had it pretty bad, and you can still see it a little on him, but he was a very determined guy and didn't have any trouble nursing, he'd just get tired really quickly.. Was hilarious to see his knees slowly giving out and he'd work at it to stay standing, resting one while using the other, and then finally collapsing where ever he was for a little rest.. after a while he'd get back up and run for a bit and do it all over again.
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Thanks Knersie, I didn't know about that one. I appreciate you sharing that!
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I went out at lunch today to check on things, and I found the little bull calf dead close to the hay ring. He was still limp, and was not cold. He had blood coming out of his nose, and I think that a cow must have kicked him or stepped on him. I think his ribs must have punctured his lungs. He was doing great the night before. His legs were getting straighter, and I was still working with him. He was all over the pasture following his mom.
Well I hate it, and felt bad when I found him.
333 is due to calve this weekend.
Well I hate it, and felt bad when I found him.
333 is due to calve this weekend.
wbvs58
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Gee, that is a bit of a shock Chuckie, both for you and me. I can't imagine what would have happened. They can usually handle a fair bit of trauma even at that age. That is a real shame.
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I'm so sorry to hear that. For all
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Thanks Ken, Williamsv, and GR.
The calf was nursing strong and getting around. He still had a little bit to go with his legs. The cows I normally see kicking a calf back do it with a gentle kick, or a shove off. I wonder if he was laying down and maybe one of the boss cows got after another and made it scatter fast and step over on his side or something. It was pure blood and splattered around his nose, and then there was mucus and blood.
She was a good mother, and she allowed me to be around him too, with concern.
The calf was nursing strong and getting around. He still had a little bit to go with his legs. The cows I normally see kicking a calf back do it with a gentle kick, or a shove off. I wonder if he was laying down and maybe one of the boss cows got after another and made it scatter fast and step over on his side or something. It was pure blood and splattered around his nose, and then there was mucus and blood.
She was a good mother, and she allowed me to be around him too, with concern.
inyati13
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Chuckie":18ffce5k said:
chuckie, shows even those who do everything possible still suffer some mortality. It is the nature of the Universe we all share. As a producer, I do as much as is reasonable to husband my herd but just like humans, some will go early. I worry over every pregnancy. The biological regime on this planet evolved under the pressures of mortality. You and I cannot lift that heavy yoke from the backs of our herds. I still grieve over every animal I have lost but I also have the ability to recognize what is natural.
You will fare well. You cannot keep a good woman down. :D
branguscowgirl
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Really sorry that you lost your calf Chuckie. :(
I hate when that happens and you never really know how.
I hate when that happens and you never really know how.
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Ron and Branguscowgirl,
I appreciate it. It does hurt and it does make me cry for the calf. And for Pud too as she was stressing over it.
When I first saw him, I thought it must be something bad hitting my calves, as it was a fear. But then I calmed down and realized how the fresh blood was coming from his nose, had to be coming from his lungs. I have seen it happen before when internal injuries have happened to a dear dear pet of mine, and how I couldn't do anything to help him. :cry2:
Just writing it upsets me. :(
So when I saw that, I feel for sure he took a blow in his ribs and lung area. I thought autopsy at first, but it looked obvious what had happened. His legs were going to be OK, it was just taking a few days to get them straight. I have had calves do that before and they always straighten up. He must have laid the same way for a long time inside Pud, and didn't move his front legs much. He was a long legged calf.
333 is so big that I am afraid she has twins. She had twins before, and I don't want that again. She is very over protective of her calf, and it is going to be so much fun rolling the hay ring all the way across the pasture to drop over the calf so I can measure it's hoof. I just hope that it is healthy and nothing will happen to it or them.
The last twins that were here, the cow stepped on the calf's leg and it was shattered his femur bone. If it had of been lower, it could have been put in a cast and he would have made it. Unfortunately, she had a heifer with the bull. I am pretty sure this one will be a "Free Martin," as she is very bullish looking, and her vulva is small and so little distance between her anus and the vulva. She has a lot of hair growing there too, and it is long. I wish she had a chance to be a breeding cow, but looks like she will go to the sale barn. Wouldn't you know she is more gentle than the others, but I have not given her a name.
I was having to keep them up in a smaller area so that the cow would know to let both nurse. The calves were small enough that she would walk away with one following her, but the other wouldn't know where they went. When they got separated, it would confuse the cow about the second one walking back up to nurse when she could see the other one. I was trying to get time for the calves to get the strength to follow her when she might have been tending to one and stepped over on the other one.
How's that song go that they used to sing on "Hee-Haw?" "Gloom, despair and agony on me; Deep dark depression excessive misery. If it weren't for bad luck, I'd have no luck at all. Gloom despair and agony on me!" :lol2:
I appreciate it. It does hurt and it does make me cry for the calf. And for Pud too as she was stressing over it.
When I first saw him, I thought it must be something bad hitting my calves, as it was a fear. But then I calmed down and realized how the fresh blood was coming from his nose, had to be coming from his lungs. I have seen it happen before when internal injuries have happened to a dear dear pet of mine, and how I couldn't do anything to help him. :cry2:
Just writing it upsets me. :(
So when I saw that, I feel for sure he took a blow in his ribs and lung area. I thought autopsy at first, but it looked obvious what had happened. His legs were going to be OK, it was just taking a few days to get them straight. I have had calves do that before and they always straighten up. He must have laid the same way for a long time inside Pud, and didn't move his front legs much. He was a long legged calf.
333 is so big that I am afraid she has twins. She had twins before, and I don't want that again. She is very over protective of her calf, and it is going to be so much fun rolling the hay ring all the way across the pasture to drop over the calf so I can measure it's hoof. I just hope that it is healthy and nothing will happen to it or them.
The last twins that were here, the cow stepped on the calf's leg and it was shattered his femur bone. If it had of been lower, it could have been put in a cast and he would have made it. Unfortunately, she had a heifer with the bull. I am pretty sure this one will be a "Free Martin," as she is very bullish looking, and her vulva is small and so little distance between her anus and the vulva. She has a lot of hair growing there too, and it is long. I wish she had a chance to be a breeding cow, but looks like she will go to the sale barn. Wouldn't you know she is more gentle than the others, but I have not given her a name.
I was having to keep them up in a smaller area so that the cow would know to let both nurse. The calves were small enough that she would walk away with one following her, but the other wouldn't know where they went. When they got separated, it would confuse the cow about the second one walking back up to nurse when she could see the other one. I was trying to get time for the calves to get the strength to follow her when she might have been tending to one and stepped over on the other one.
How's that song go that they used to sing on "Hee-Haw?" "Gloom, despair and agony on me; Deep dark depression excessive misery. If it weren't for bad luck, I'd have no luck at all. Gloom despair and agony on me!" :lol2:
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Finally, 333, the 12 year old cow had her calf this morning. She had a bull. He weighed 86 lbs. He is about 8 hours old.
