John IN
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What are you alls feeling about letting calves (bulls and heifers) and a herd bull roam in the same pasture? If no harm at what age about should I pull calf out?
calf and bull, same pasture
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Unless you hand breed him, he's gotta be with the ladys to get them bred. Therefore, he's gotta be with the calves as well as the cows. I'ld pull him when the heifers hit about 6 months just to avoid possible early breeding.
dun
dun
Campground Cattle
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Agree but you better pull the little boys too. Depending on the breed (English) will suprise you at how early they will breed.
Got me thinking, so I broke out the MARC composite breed study. Gelbvieh, Braunvieh and Pinzgaur have a higher percentage of puberty at one year then Angus, over twice as many as Hereford. The only british breed included in the study that has as early a puberty as those three is Red Poll. limo and Hereford are just about dead even.
It's one of those things that I've never really paid any attention to. As long as they breed and settle at 14-15 months that's all I've ever cared about.
Another "old dog, new trick" kind of deal
dun
It's one of those things that I've never really paid any attention to. As long as they breed and settle at 14-15 months that's all I've ever cared about.
Another "old dog, new trick" kind of deal
dun
la4angus":3275ux1m said:
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la4angus":8viqivvp said:
Won't say that is not true I can only speak from experience on the English breeds BW's Angus and Herefords. I have all three breeds (don't tell anyone that I have the angus)seen all three come in as early as seven to eight months.
hillbilly
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I dont wean my replacement heffiers till 9 mo's. I work them at that time and give them the abortion shot, about $2 and worth every penny.
BTW I'm agin it in humans.
Mountain William
BTW I'm agin it in humans.
Mountain William
D.R. Cattle
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Is it considered unethical to sell heifers that are presumably stockers and it turns out they're bred? I wean on the trailer at 9 months, but I don't retain any and I don't abort.
It's not really unethical but the feedlots sure don't like it. Probelm is reputaions. If you say they're definitly not bred they will usaully bring a little more per cwt. But if you claim they aren';t and they are you'll have ahrd time selling feeder heifers again. ALos even if you don;t claim they are, the feeders come to realize that yours may be pregnant and bid accordingly.
Our association has $300 gaurentee that all the feeder heifers are unbred. We've never had to pay the penalty and the feeders that have bought our heifers in the past are bidding higher now because of the gaurantee.
dun
Our association has $300 gaurentee that all the feeder heifers are unbred. We've never had to pay the penalty and the feeders that have bought our heifers in the past are bidding higher now because of the gaurantee.
dun
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