C-Section Baby- Pictures Added

[holly heifer]

Wonderful photos! :tiphat:

 

[dun]

I would stick with milk replacer. Your feed store should have it in 25 pd. bags, if you think that your going to rasie this calf from a bottle it would be cheaper getting a 50 pd. bag. It should be around $50, a lot cheaper then milk from the store, and theres a lot more nutrients in it that a growing calf needs. There will be recommendations on the bag on how much you should be feeding a newborn calf, I think there all a little different.

Quality milk replacer that is made of milk and not soy will run closer to 75 bucks then 50.

Still cheaper then buying it from the store, I would hope.

I agree, and probably more healthful for the calf then store bought milk.

 

[cowgirl_up_47]

Wonderful photos! :tiphat:

Thanks! I actually remembered to grab the camera before we left.

I would stick with milk replacer. Your feed store should have it in 25 pd. bags, if you think that your going to rasie this calf from a bottle it would be cheaper getting a 50 pd. bag. It should be around $50, a lot cheaper then milk from the store, and theres a lot more nutrients in it that a growing calf needs. There will be recommendations on the bag on how much you should be feeding a newborn calf, I think there all a little different.

Quality milk replacer that is made of milk and not soy will run closer to 75 bucks then 50.

Still cheaper then buying it from the store, I would hope.

We've always used milk replacer for bottle babies, but someone said at the vet's said to use whole milk. I think we are going to get some milk replacer for her. We gave her whole milk this morning, because that's all we have right now.

 

[LoveMoo11]

I would use milk replacer, I've never used whole milk from the store to feed calves, I can imagine it would get really expensive-at least 4 bucks a day! The calf should probably drink two quarts twice a day. Hope the cow continues to improve.

 

[hillsdown]

If that little girl is 90 lbs she will need at least 3 pints twice a day ,she can probably handle 4 pints. I would start her on a small bag of calf starter milk replacer it is higher than 20-20-20 and is good for them for the first two weeks ,you can get it from your vet. Then if mom is better you can try her back on her, if not get the 20-20-20 all milk replacer and you can feed her or supplement her while she is on mom if mom doesn't have enough milk.

 

[cowgirl_up_47]

If that little girl is 90 lbs she will need at least 3 pints twice a day ,she can probably handle 4 pints. I would start her on a small bag of calf starter milk replacer it is higher than 20-20-20 and is good for them for the first two weeks ,you can get it from your vet. Then if mom is better you can try her back on her, if not get the 20-20-20 all milk replacer and you can feed her or supplement her while she is on mom if mom doesn't have enough milk.

We gave her about 3 pints this morning and another 2 this afternoon. We plan on giving her another 4 pints tonight. She has been drinking all of it, no problem. We only have whole milk right now, so she will have to be on that until at least tomorrow.

They said they have had calves that have diarrhea from medicated milk replacer. I was just going to get non medicated.


The calf is very energetic, sucking on everything, butting, running, etc.

The cow is still down, but moving herself around. She is alert and eating and drinking. We are planning on picking her up on Thursday.

 

[Bez+]

Good pics - never seen a C-Section done on a cow laying down - we do them standing up.

Even if we have to lay the boots to them to get them up.

Give that cow a shot with a zapper to get her up - longer she is down the worse it will be.

Cheers

Bez+

 

[greatgerts]

Any status on the cow? Has she gotten up yet?

 

[Keren]

I agree Bez, she needs to get up.

And I've never seen it done on a cow lying, either. All ours have been done with the cow standing in the crush.

 

[cowgirl_up_47]

Any status on the cow? Has she gotten up yet?

We picked her up from the vet's today. She still hasn't gotten up yet. She has been sort of crawling around the stall she was in, and now tries to get up. They say she's getting better every day. They don't want us trying to lift her with the sling for another 5 days, because of the incision.

They have been giving her Penicillin, and gave us a shot of something to give her tomorrow. I'm not sure what it's called.

She is still eating and drinking just fine.

 

[hillsdown]

I agree Bez, she needs to get up.

And I've never seen it done on a cow lying, either. All ours have been done with the cow standing in the crush.

The last c sec we had done before we sold the dairy the cow was lying down in the calving pen , we had to put down sterile padding around her. She was just too tired to stand from being in labor so long so the vet did her like that, he was actually a horse specialist that was on call at our clinic. Those were the fanciest stitches I have ever seen, didn't even leave a mark. The cow was up an about within half an hour though after the calf was removed and she was stitched up.

I hope your gal gets up soon cowgirl as the longer they stay down the more likely they are to never get up again..

 

[VtMapleGal]

yeah, i have never seen a c-sec down either. I also would be after her to get up. Cows are made to be standing, they just shouldnt be down that long. Is she going to the bathroom?

 

[cowgirl_up_47]

Is she going to the bathroom?

Yes, she is. Her head is up and she is very alert. When you push on her, she swings her head around to try to hit you. She has been crawling around and moving her legs. She has started trying to get up.

The shot they gave for tomorrow is Banamine.

 

[jilleroo]

Being in an outback situation, caesareans where the cow is alive are usually not an option, but we did have one done years ago. It was on our younger son's "precious" first heifer to calve and the calf was wrongly presented and proved impossible to turn. A couple of local kids who were vet students were home for the holidays and they offered to come across and try to help. They couldn't get the calf out either and, as the mother of one was a vet, they had some basic gear to do a caesar. It was the worst type of day imaginable - christmas eve in Australia, 45 degrees celsius in the shade, with a roaring north wind that was just blowing plain dirt by the bucketful. We couldnt erect any shade - it was too windy. The heifer was given a sedative, let out of the crush and laid down with her head tied to the bottom rail so she couldnt get up. The bull calf came out alive and, despite the dirty hot horrible windy conditions, the heifer didn't skip a beat, reared the calf, and went on to have another 13 calves unaided. Those kids did a great job! The only other caesarean I've seen the cow was laid down too but I know that not the normal way its done.
I think I'd give that heifer a little longer before I'd zap her to get up. If she's feeling okay, she'll get up when she's able. Good luck.

 

[Jeanne - Simme Valley]

Did she "walk" into the vets office prior to the surgery? If she did, it sure seems strange that she can't get up now.
How did they manage to "load" her onto your trailer? That must have been a job.

 

[cowgirl_up_47]

Did she "walk" into the vets office prior to the surgery? If she did, it sure seems strange that she can't get up now.
How did they manage to "load" her onto your trailer? That must have been a job.

She was up when we put her into the trailer to take her to the vet's. She fell on the way there and didn't get up after that.

To "load" her, we made a ramp/sled thing out of plywood with boards on the bottom. We put it like a ramp to the trailer, put a strap behind her and pulled her onto it. Once she was on it, we slid the whole thing into the trailer.

 

[Workinonit Farm]

She fell on the way there and didn't get up after that.

That may have something to do with why she still hasn't gotten up.

Katherine

 

[Jeanne - Simme Valley]

So how is she doing?

 

[cowgirl_up_47]

So how is she doing?

She is still down. Still eating and drinking just fine. She moves her legs some, but doesn't get up. We're going to try lifting her with the sling tonight and see how that goes.

 

[cowgirl_up_47]

Went out this morning to lift her, and she was already up! Went tonight to feed, and she was down again, but they were able to get her back up and standing on her own.