OakCreekRanch":u9a93lqo said:I got my bulls from the sale barn and we're happy with their calves so far. A man's cull is another man's treasure!
What's your criteria for selection at the Salebarn.
OakCreekRanch":u9a93lqo said:I got my bulls from the sale barn and we're happy with their calves so far. A man's cull is another man's treasure!
mwj":3gb52bug said:If it is for sale period it is a cull. Any livestock that is not culled would be retained.
I always passed up pitiful looking bulls and any bulls that ain't Angus. Just eyeing on how the bulls walking around in the ring. If he is free of health problems, is in great shape for a breeding season and decent looking I would buy him. We don't use these bulls on our heifers for obvious reasons.3waycross":2syqeilt said:OakCreekRanch":2syqeilt said:I got my bulls from the sale barn and we're happy with their calves so far. A man's cull is another man's treasure!
What's your criteria for selection at the Salebarn.
AussieLim":15n6f7z9 said:Why buy someone's cull? A bull is responsible for 50% of his progeny a genes and can have 50-60 calves a year in a seasonal joining. Why would u buy a cull to be the one that is responsible for much of your progenies performance.
AngelaFromAbilene":321hj404 said:AussieLim":321hj404 said:Why buy someone's cull? A bull is responsible for 50% of his progeny a genes and can have 50-60 calves a year in a seasonal joining. Why would u buy a cull to be the one that is responsible for much of your progenies performance.
They are not all culls. When I run a bull through the ring, it's not because he's a cull, of any sort. It's becasue we have kept enough of his daughters and do not want to breed them back to their sire. In the past 4 years, I have sold a son of Conneally Freightliner and a son of B/R New Frontier. Both were top of the line Angus bulls, easy to handle and quite prolific. Both brought top dollar and went back to a herd. Both buyers continue to be more than pleased with these bulls and anxiously await my next bull offering. I also have them trich tested because it is required in Texas. As I have a closed herd, it's pointless but none the less, it's the law.
BSE only. Trich test has to be done in a state approved lab and signed by their agent. Bull has to be quaranteened on your farm for 30 days from date of purchase.wacocowboy":10wxcls6 said:the sales I go to here in Texas if you buy him for a breeder he is tested before he leaves the sale barn
mwj":2y73nm3x said:I guess the word ''cull'' needs defined. How many bulls go to the packers every day that by your own standards would not be a cull. We are told by all the ''brains'' in the business that we need to upgrade our genetics so we buy bulls. We have to move a bull on or we have more bulls than cows. If the bull was useful in your herd till the new bull arrived why is he a cull when he walks on the trailer? :???:
TexasBred":30espr0l said:mwj":30espr0l said:I guess the word ''cull'' needs defined. How many bulls go to the packers every day that by your own standards would not be a cull. We are told by all the ''brains'' in the business that we need to upgrade our genetics so we buy bulls. We have to move a bull on or we have more bulls than cows. If the bull was useful in your herd till the new bull arrived why is he a cull when he walks on the trailer? :???:
Is every cow you sell a cull?? Everything on my place is for sale...Perhaps he's bred all the cattle and you want a new bull for the next season? Maybe the market is high for bulls? Numerous reasons. I've sold several young bulls over the years that were definitely not culls. Just needed a new home and hopefully do a good job for the new owner.
mwj":7kgjzlhs said:TexasBred":7kgjzlhs said:mwj":7kgjzlhs said:I guess the word ''cull'' needs defined. How many bulls go to the packers every day that by your own standards would not be a cull. We are told by all the ''brains'' in the business that we need to upgrade our genetics so we buy bulls. We have to move a bull on or we have more bulls than cows. If the bull was useful in your herd till the new bull arrived why is he a cull when he walks on the trailer? :???:
Is every cow you sell a cull?? Everything on my place is for sale...Perhaps he's bred all the cattle and you want a new bull for the next season? Maybe the market is high for bulls? Numerous reasons. I've sold several young bulls over the years that were definitely not culls. Just needed a new home and hopefully do a good job for the new owner.
I agree 100% and that was my point. People say sale-barn and cull in the same breath. Would you buy a good used bull if he were tested?
Dave":3h4cg7bl said:I have never bought an older bull but have often thought it would pay to do it. Most of the time it would cost one bid over kill price. Turn him out for 60 days and haul him back. Not out a lot of money and you would get most if not all of it back in a short period of time. No feeding a bull over the non-breeding season (and they eat a lot). And if you are in this part of the world where they get branded you can pay attention and pick up a bull from a known quality breeding program.
TennesseeTuxedo":3j5lg356 said:Dave":3j5lg356 said:I have never bought an older bull but have often thought it would pay to do it. Most of the time it would cost one bid over kill price. Turn him out for 60 days and haul him back. Not out a lot of money and you would get most if not all of it back in a short period of time. No feeding a bull over the non-breeding season (and they eat a lot). And if you are in this part of the world where they get branded you can pay attention and pick up a bull from a known quality breeding program.
Dave, it might pay to buddy up to the well known quality breeder and offer to buy their retired bulls directly off the farm.