Bull Problem

[bbone50]

I have a 3 year old angus bull that will nurse off of our other mother cows when the calves are nursing. Has anyone ever heard of this happening. In 40 years I have never had this happen before. I have put the nose flappers, 3 different kind in the bulls nose to prevent the nursing. He just goes to a tree and knocks them out. The mother cows try to fight him off but he just won't quit.
Thanks for any feedback.
BB

 

[Caustic Burno]

Packing plant.
He is not going to stop, time for the one way ticket IMO.

 

[bbone50]

Thank you, I was thinking the same thing. Going to the sale barn after all the cows are bred/

 

[bbone50]

Thank you. My thoughts exactly. He will be going to the sale born as soon as all the cows are bred. Only one more to be bred.

 

[Red Bull Breeder]

How many pounds are your calves going to lose while your waiting on the cows to get bred?

 

[76 Bar]

RBB is spot on. I had a cow sucking bull. Like you, had never encountered it in ~ 40 years. Suspected it but never caught him the act (2,000 acre ranch) Two crops of what otherwise should have been dandy calves looked like orphans. As you've discovered, bulls (nor cows with such loathsome behavior) can't be rehabilitated. Get rid of him ASAP before he does further damage. As to the cause, dunno. Did lots of research and never found anything conclusive as it pertained to beef cattle.

 

[bbone50]

Thank you for response. Yep, he will go to sale barn this Friday. He is a good looking bull weighs at least 1800 pounds and how he does this?? Oh well, I got one round of his calves.

 

[jltrent]

That sucker would go.........

 

[TennesseeTuxedo]

We are calving right now. The bulls are together in a bull lot and won't be turned in until May 1st, by then all the spring calves should be on the ground and well on their way. Why would you allow a bull to run with cows and/or heifers while they are calving in the first place?

 

[76 Bar]

Thank you for response. Yep, he will go to sale barn this Friday. He is a good looking bull weighs at least 1800 pounds and how he does this?? Oh well, I got one round of his calves.

I hear ya...mine was the 2nd high seller ($$$$) from a nationally known/highly respected and long term operation plus a maternal half sib to one of their notable herd sires. Was used on 1st & second calvers (read naive/dumb girls). Very clever...waited until the calves were suckling their dams and snuck in to suck hind tit. FWIW I had a decades long relationship/friendship with the breeder and they credited me minus salvage. Because this topic occasionally pops up I suspect it often as not goes undetected and perhaps not quite as rare as one would be lead to believe.

 

[bbone50]

Thank you for the response. He's penned up and going to the sale barn Friday. I found him trying on 2 other cows late yesterday. Can't have this problem anymore.

 

[76 Bar]

We are calving right now. The bulls are together in a bull lot and won't be turned in until May 1st, by then all the spring calves should be on the ground and well on their way. Why would you allow a bull to run with cows and/or heifers while they are calving in the first place?

All due respect TT but I think your comments a wee bit harsh. Not everyone has the ability or facilities to manage their cattle "by the book" but nonetheless are diligent & exemplary caretakers. :2cents:

 

[TennesseeTuxedo]

We are calving right now. The bulls are together in a bull lot and won't be turned in until May 1st, by then all the spring calves should be on the ground and well on their way. Why would you allow a bull to run with cows and/or heifers while they are calving in the first place?

All due respect TT but I think your comments a wee bit harsh. Not everyone has the ability or facilities to manage their cattle "by the book" but nonetheless are diligent & exemplary caretakers. :2cents:

I understand but I hate the thought of him selling what he says is otherwise a quality bull.

 

[Coosh71]

X13 he gone tomorrow.sorry.

 

[Red Bull Breeder]

TT you going to wait till the calves are weaned to breed the cows back? If not the bull is still going to be sucking the cows.

 

[TennesseeTuxedo]

TT you going to wait till the calves are weaned to breed the cows back? If not the bull is still going to be sucking the cows.

Absolutely not. I agree he's got to go just trying to find a solution to the colostrum stealing.

 

[76 Bar]

I understand but I hate the thought of him selling what he says is otherwise a quality bull.

Understood TT. Don't know the state sale barn regulations where he is located but in the west bulls 18 months or older go directly to slaughter unless they've been trich tested negative.

 

[76 Bar]

Whoops. I just realized I misinterpreted your point TT.

 

[ALACOWMAN]

What kind of mineral program are they on?..