Thanks for the replies. I still question not cutting the pole off at ground level where the rot is. If left alone, won't the decay continue up the post? Or since the above ground portion is not encased in water-holding concrete, will the decay stop?
Hurleyjd,hurleyjd":3lx4rcyf said:How bad is the decay. Is the post completely gone. Is the decay from outside the post in or inside of the post out. Is the post real soft in the area of the decay. Is the post 6 x 6 pine that has been treated. If you cleaned the area with a wire brush then how much would you have left.
J. T.":3vwity7d said:Hurleyjd,hurleyjd":3vwity7d said:How bad is the decay. Is the post completely gone. Is the decay from outside the post in or inside of the post out. Is the post real soft in the area of the decay. Is the post 6 x 6 pine that has been treated. If you cleaned the area with a wire brush then how much would you have left.
Most of the posts are decayed 1/4" or less. One is rotted to depth of 3/4". As I stated, the decay is the first stages, but I'd rather repair it now than wait until collapse is immenent. I'll post some photos as soon as I can. Computer isn't cooperating.
MikeC":2t2mop3g said:Used motor oil and/or diesel fuel are not wood preservatives. They will soften the cellulose fibers making them absorb more moisture and cause them to rot faster.
Although they have a short term advantage by keeping bugs away, in the long run they do more harm than good.
cowgirl580":30o7md33 said:MikeC":30o7md33 said:Used motor oil and/or diesel fuel are not wood preservatives. They will soften the cellulose fibers making them absorb more moisture and cause them to rot faster.
Although they have a short term advantage by keeping bugs away, in the long run they do more harm than good.
Could you explain that to me please?
guest25":20hn9e53 said:Call the geek squad they are now able to sex the computers to see if the reason they are not cooperating is because they are female in origin.
If you dont have a female computer its probably nothing more than a liberal one.
no disrespect intended just a play on words.
MikeC":2mhlvkv2 said:cowgirl580":2mhlvkv2 said:MikeC":2mhlvkv2 said:Used motor oil and/or diesel fuel are not wood preservatives. They will soften the cellulose fibers making them absorb more moisture and cause them to rot faster.
Although they have a short term advantage by keeping bugs away, in the long run they do more harm than good.
Could you explain that to me please?
I have a good friend who is a chemist and at one time worked for the U.S. Forestry Service. This org has conducted wood preservative experiments since 1910.
My friend has extensive knowledge of wood preserving techniques and says that diesel/used motor oil products do not inhibit wood rot for the long term because of some chemicals within the oils.. They will keep bugs and fungus away for a short period of time but do more harm than good for the long term because of the softening effect they have on wood.
I don't know how to better explain it.
Tung Oil, for example, is a wood preservative. Motor oil (petroleum based) is not.
cowgirl580":8st378su said:MikeC":8st378su said:cowgirl580":8st378su said:MikeC":8st378su said:Used motor oil and/or diesel fuel are not wood preservatives. They will soften the cellulose fibers making them absorb more moisture and cause them to rot faster.
Although they have a short term advantage by keeping bugs away, in the long run they do more harm than good.
Could you explain that to me please?
I have a good friend who is a chemist and at one time worked for the U.S. Forestry Service. This org has conducted wood preservative experiments since 1910.
My friend has extensive knowledge of wood preserving techniques and says that diesel/used motor oil products do not inhibit wood rot for the long term because of some chemicals within the oils.. They will keep bugs and fungus away for a short period of time but do more harm than good for the long term because of the softening effect they have on wood.
I don't know how to better explain it.
Tung Oil, for example, is a wood preservative. Motor oil (petroleum based) is not.
Then why are all telephone poles and railroad ties (sp?) 'dipped' in it? Aren't creosote and used oil similar?
cowgirl580":jz90vvhz said:MikeC":jz90vvhz said:cowgirl580":jz90vvhz said:MikeC":jz90vvhz said:Used motor oil and/or diesel fuel are not wood preservatives. They will soften the cellulose fibers making them absorb more moisture and cause them to rot faster.
Although they have a short term advantage by keeping bugs away, in the long run they do more harm than good.
Could you explain that to me please?
I have a good friend who is a chemist and at one time worked for the U.S. Forestry Service. This org has conducted wood preservative experiments since 1910.
My friend has extensive knowledge of wood preserving techniques and says that diesel/used motor oil products do not inhibit wood rot for the long term because of some chemicals within the oils.. They will keep bugs and fungus away for a short period of time but do more harm than good for the long term because of the softening effect they have on wood.
I don't know how to better explain it.
Tung Oil, for example, is a wood preservative. Motor oil (petroleum based) is not.
Then why are all telephone poles and railroad ties (sp?) 'dipped' in it? Aren't creosote and used oil similar?