America has CAB, Canada has...???

IluvABbeef

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Since obviously the top breed in the neighboring country to us Canucks is Angus a.k.a the CAB market, I started thinking...what's Canada's top breed? Or is there really a top breed in Canada; or does it all depends on what sells best at the local livestock auction/sale barn?

Or....

Does anybody know???

Just curious.
 
Herfords are the top breed in this country. Angus are top notch cattle that they try to market thru Certified Angus Beef
or CAB. CAB has turned out to be a big joke as they are decieving the public. 80% of resturaunts and grocery stores claim to sell CAB when less than 40% of the nations cowherd is angus. Someone is not telling the truth. As a cattleman I am ashamed of CAB.
 
Shorthornguy":i544qkmv said:
Herfords are the top breed in this country. Angus are top notch cattle that they try to market thru Certified Angus Beef
or CAB. CAB has turned out to be a big joke as they are decieving the public. 80% of resturaunts and grocery stores claim to sell CAB when less than 40% of the nations cowherd is angus. Someone is not telling the truth. As a cattleman I am ashamed of CAB.

Show me something that says less than 40% of the herds in the US have Angus influence.
 
Angus is the most popular highly used breed in Canada. There would be some spin off from the CAB thing in the USA but for the most part it's because they are a convenience breed. They don't do everything right but they do the most things right for the environment we are in.
 
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Angus association dumps its meat brand 03.28.2003
The Canadian Angus Association (CAA) is out of the meat business. In a surprise announcement in late January, the association announced it was closing down its successful line of Certified Canadian Angus branded beef. In fact, the line was shut down by their packer, Cargill Foods of High River who wanted to avoid becoming entangled in a lawsuit brought against the Canadians by the powerful Certified Angus Beef organization in the U.S.

The announcement came just as the Canadian brand seemed ready to take off. Cargill sold a record 5 million pounds last year, and the reputation of the product was growing. Everything looked rosy until last September when CAA manager Doug Fee got a call from the Certified Angus Beef (CAB) headquarters. They claimed the CAA’s use of the word "certified" infringed on their highly successful trademark and demanded a name change. "I offered to fly down and meet with them but they claimed I was stalling because I had a meeting in Europe I couldn’t get out of," says Fee. "Then the lawyers got involved and well, we’re what 5 months down the road and we are still nowhere." Despite the considerable costs involved in redoing the brand the CAA did come up with a new name, Classic Canadian Angus beef and were getting ready to launch it as soon as they cleared up their legal squabble with CAB. Cargill’s brand manager for Canada, Kent Harrison admits the CAB suit did force their decision, however it wasn’t the only factor. "We had such success with the Canadian Angus program, it had really done well in Canada and the U.S., but at some point you hit a limit in the number of cattle available and you can’t grow beyond that," he says. To replace the Canadian brand Cargill has joined with 4 U.S. sister Excel plants to market the parent company’s Angus Pride brand. An official announcement of the new line for Canada was expected in early March. They will become part of the North American chain that markets this brand to U.S. and Canadian customers. The primary market will be the U.S. but Harrison says most of the Canadian Certified Angus partners have already signed on with the new brand. Angus Pride fits between the company’s top Sterling Silver restaurant line and the retail Northridge Farms brand. It requires a small 30 AAA or better grade whereas the Canadian Certified Angus started at small zero, the lowest rung on the AAA scale. They will take 50% black hided cattle and Red or Black Angus that carry the CAA’s certified Angus green tags. Harrison would like to take only green tagged animals, but there are simply not enough of them around. "That’s our goal," he adds. "We want to market this meat on genetics and not just black hide." He admits the Angus Pride brand puts Cargill in competition with CAB which sold 580 million pounds last year, some of it processed by Excel, Cargill’s U.S. meat arm. "CAB is still a member of the family here but our focus will be on Angus Pride going forward," he says. Meanwhile, Doug Fee takes some consolation in the fact that their venture into the meat business pushed 5 Canadian packers into featuring Angus lines of their own. "For me it was an ego thing, it’s really too bad. But our objective was just to increase the visibility of Angus and Angus bulls and I think we have done that, he says." (March, 2003)
 
This was one big fiasco that was one of the most embarrasing things that the CAA was involved with.
 
Shorthornguy":rs074kmr said:
Herfords are the top breed in this country. Angus are top notch cattle that they try to market thru Certified Angus Beef
or CAB. CAB has turned out to be a big joke as they are decieving the public. 80% of resturaunts and grocery stores claim to sell CAB when less than 40% of the nations cowherd is angus. Someone is not telling the truth. As a cattleman I am ashamed of CAB.

By this country I assume you mean locally. While Herefords arent absent from my area, Angus is by far the most popular.

If CAB is a big joke its only because I am laughing all the way to the bank.

While I have no idea where you got your figures I dont see what they have to do with each other at all even if true. If I sell one piece of CAB meat I am selling CAB. Im thinking far less than 40% of the nations cowherd could supply that.

The joke smells a lot like sour grapes to me.
 
Meaning this in a very nice way -

If you folks from Canada do not have an equivilent to CAB, why don't one or some of you try to do something about it? It is mostly a PR thing and someone had to start it, so why don't you do it up there. It does'nt have to be Angus, just pick your breed of choice and start a vigourous PR campaign. And good luck.

I'll stick with the Angus myself, but to each his own.
 
glover36":2d4to038 said:
if i wanted i couldnt find one angus breeder around me

Do you mean if you stick your arms out and spin in a circle you don't hit an angus breeder? :lol:

Or in your county? Where you at glover, there's angus folks all over Ont.

But you are right, large framed, pounds to market cattle are the norm here. Seeing a lot more grade premium talk recently though. But, talk is just that.
 
Frankie":1lsn9tnq said:
And actually about 60% of the US cowherd has some Angus influence.

What percentage per animal influenced is important? Black hide on a registered Lim can't affect the product can it?
 
anguslimox i am in peterborough i couldnt find a breeder within 20 miles around me because also no one shows them around here either same with club calves
 
Peterborough, I believe that town once had the most Tim Hortons per capita as any town in Canada. I was through there a few years ago selecting cattle. It was dark though.

I agree there needs to be more emphasis on something other than marbling.

The packers are paying for it on the grid and everyone seems to be the expert on this topic but never finished more than a minor amount of cattle.
I am no expert either but extremes have never paid off.
 
Wewild":2rogm60j said:
Frankie":2rogm60j said:
And actually about 60% of the US cowherd has some Angus influence.

What percentage per animal influenced is important? Black hide on a registered Lim can't affect the product can it?

Carcass traits are some of the most heritable. Black hide doesn't help or hurt the end product, beef. But the right Angus genetics can help improve marbling in the product.
 

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