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I'd probably be ready to retire a long time before I got that far! :lol: This has been an insightful thread, because I've always had the impression that calves from my F1 tigerstripes and Angus bull had to be terminal. I had never considered them for retention.

Doc, Along that same line of reasoning, what would you say about retaining heifers for breeding out of a cross between an F1 (50% Bos Indicus/50% Hereford) female and a British (Angus) bull? If the retention of these heifers is advisable, then what would they be best bred to in order to...

Herefords on Brahama didn't do too bad either, did they Caustic?

Deja vu???

Caustic, what are you crossing your tigers back to?

Caustic, them old cowhands are a dying breed. My wife's grandfather, who just passed away, and his family ran cows all over the place around here. He'd tell me stories about driving cows from Beach City to Anahuac straight across the bayous and the north end of the bay in the winter at low...

I know exactly where Simmons Bottom is. You shouldn't have any problem running 25-30 cows around there. I love the tigerstipes, but they can definitely be hair-brained sometimes. If you're a little leary of them I'd look at Brangus, black baldies or Beefmaster. I'll keep my eyes peeled for a...

Texas Redneck, Where are you located? I grew up in Dayton. We ran cows all over Liberty and Hardin counties. Right now I've got a place in Hankamer (Chambers County) off of 1724. A good brangus or braford cross will do fine for you in this area. I'm running tigerstripes, but like has been...

Looks like a trend here, huh? Seems the conventional wisdom is that 3/8 Brahma is an ideal amount. CJ

Magpie, Brafords are a good example of this. CJ

dph, Are you raising replacement heifers or bringing them in from outside your herd? If you are raising them, are you keeping only the ones from the "early calvers". I think with a 63 breeding season, anything less than 10% open is acceptable. but unless your replacement pool has a higher...

ALACOWMAN, I stand corrected. After reading everything on the UBB (United Braford Breeders) site, it appears it is correct to call an F1 tigerstripe a Braford. While they say they do allow "flexibility" in the percentage they stop short of saying that a certified F1 can be registered as a...

Don't confuse Brafords with F1's. A Braford is 5/8 Herford and 3/8 Brahma. An F1 is 50/50. A lot people confuse these two. CJ

AZ is correct. F1 just means "first cross". It is a term related to the breeding process and not specific to any particular breed. I've got a herd of F1 tigerstripes, which is what comes to mind to most people in South Texas when talking about F1's. CJ

Chuckie, I have about 600 Chadian employees working for me, so I see all those diseases, and more. Most contributed to by mal-nutrition. However, AIDS is becoming more and more prevelant. It is already the number one cause of death in Africa. They estimate that 26 million people are...

Chuckie, I'm a general manager for a drilling company. We are drilling oil and gas wells. CJ

As an aside to this topic, I work in Southern Chad (28 days on / 28 days off). The most popular cattle in this region is a crossbreed mostly made up of West African Zebu. I can attest to the hardiness of this breed. In this part of Chad the cattle are herded across open range from place to...

Okay Ryder, you bring the crawfish, I'll get the beer, and we'll let them 25 tigerstripes provide the entertainment! CJ

Thanks for all the advice and recommendations. I even appreciate the advice of those recommending I sell all my cows and get out of the cattle business! However, I think I'll chance it a little longer. Yes, these are all bred cows that have had at least two calves already. So I'm not...

I recently bought 25 F1 tigerstripes that are bred to either a registered Angus, or registered Brangus bull. They are all three years old and have had at least one calf, and are a prety good size frame. They'll start calving in Nov and I'll be needing a bull to breed them back after they all...