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Talked to the vet this afternoon and he also said some mold is ok. He said don't feed them a bunch that has over say 30% mold coverage. More important, don't feed them a bunch without mold either because it will make them bloat up big time. If I throw a bunch out the boss cows will take over...

Maybe a little more info would get me a more useful response. I have found a place that will sell me all the bakery scraps I can haul for $50 a load. He suggested I bring a cattle or horse trailer. A loaf of bread weighs about 1 lb 4oz and ocupies about 0.11 cu ft. My cattle trailer is 16L...

When feeding bakery scraps, some or all of it is bound to become moldy before feeding. What problems can you expect with the cattle if feeding moldy bakery scraps?

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It seems these gain tables are specified for implanted cattle only as stated in note 4 of the example just before the tables. Its not clear to me whether the reference to the types of implants is saying these numbers are 10-12% higher than without implants, or that you could get another 10-12%...

Some quick sanity checks 826lbs dressed from 1265 live = 65.3% is real good 1265-600=665lbs in 191 days = 3.48lbs ADG is good. If it took 38 animals to pay the feed bill for a pen of 98 then $135.28cwt * 826lbs*38 = $42461 feed bill, and 665lb gain on each of 98 animals (65170 total lbs) then...

Thats a good possibility. However, I never checked to see if they were loose. Don't they have to be loose and not attached to the skull to be scurrs? He was a sale barn calf so I don't know what his lineage was.

Actually I said "...horn buds..." i.e. not full horns. These were about an inch (or less) long. So some horn genetics were there, but these horns were not a consideration in defending his area of the trough. Other attributes were that he was calmer than the others, always first to the trough...

Has anyone seen a study on feeder performance for polled vs. non-polled cattle? I recently had a baldy feeder that had horn buds and did exceptional on feedout.

I'm trying to find out more info on using probiotics in cattle feed. My main question is can one include probiotics in feed and still make a Natural, or Organic claim. From what little I've read these are not antibiotics.

Thanks folks. Thats just the feedback I was looking for. Happy Holidays Doug

I've read that bull calves should be placed on high energy growth rations when they are being developed as herd sires. But high energy equates to very high corn content which may be bad for the liver and long term health. What do you use as feed guide lines when preparing a young herd sire.

Just the info I was looking for. I actually collect waste vege oil also to help lower my diesel fuel costs. I've been thinking about sending some of what settles in the bottom of the 1st stage of my fuel processor out for analysis to see if I could use it as a feed supplement. You have...

Did you mean the Mix 30 from Dun's post or veg fat? If you meant fat, can I ask what type and where you get it. and how you mix it in with your feed? Also, how/where do you get the specific nutritional data for it (CP, TDN, Fat, or MCal info etc.) in order to calculate the total ration...

Does/Has anyone use(d) vegetable fat to increase the energy content of their feed? If so, what type or recommendations. I was wanting to mix a higher energy ration for my feeder steers without increasing the starch load to much. I plan to keep the total fat content around 4%.

Why wait a week? If they are cheaper at the begining of the sale then just buy the first lot, run them to the back immediately to have them retagged and sell em later the same day!

With a 3ft high trough that is not full all the time it is possible for the water level to get low enough that a young calf cannot drink. To prevent this I build 1 foot high dirt ramp at the trough or set the trough into a 1 foot deep digout.

The 14/65 I get from the NE Texas Farmer Coop in Sulphur Springs is up to $11.50cwt. The pellets I've found are $9.65cwt. Both use cottonseed hulls for roughage. These are freezer beef calves about 800lbs when I start them. I think the problems I used to have with digestion when I was...

I've been feeding a 14/65 (CP/TDN) loose bulk feed to my feedout calves for a few years now with better success than when I was mixing my own. I feed about 2% BW plus free choice hay. With the significant increase in feed prices I am looking again for lower cost feeds. I've noticed that some...

Great idea Dun! Thanks to all that have related or are going to relate their experiences.