What is B12 and Selenium? Sorry... Just never heard of those before. And I live in central. Sorry, didn't see that you had asked that.dun":3pz5aejn said:Rather the4n antibiotics you might ask the vet about B12 and selenium.
Still curious about where in MO you are located. North/south/east/west/central
That's genius! OMG thank you! I have a whole bunch of unused turkey bastard around here I can use! I don't wanna tube Mira. I'm scared I'll hurt her because of my lack of experience and no one to help me... But a turkey baster I can do! I found the post and read about it and that sounds manageable. If I can't get Mira to feed at her next offering then I'll try the baster.dun":2mb4jmxz said:I don;t recall who it was but there is a post about using a turkey baster for feeding rather then tubing. Might be able to search for turkey baster and find the post
No. I give it to her once a day so far. And she won't really drink the stuff. She sucks a little then stops then sucks a little then pushes it away. I can't get more than maybe like a tiny bit in her at a time. Like three tablespoons tops. She hates the stuff.Craig Miller":2pzogz1y said:I'm not sure on this, maybe dun can confirm or not, but how often are you giving the electrolytes? Are you giving them so often that it's keeping her full to where she doesn't want the milk?
LizHartley1991":ajogo55j said:So I'm kind of crazy and have been writing down how much I feed Mira, at what time, what I feed her, and how much she drinks.
I added up and yesterday from 1AM til 11M, Mira drank over 13.41 pints (6.7 quarts) of formula and barely 3tbsp of the electrolyte stuff.
Today she hasn't drank anything yet. So I'm wondering if I overdid it? I know calves are like human babies and can be over fed so I'm wondering if that's why she's not wanting anything?
She's also been cold. Shivering pretty hard and she occasionally makes a deep, hollow breathing sound. Like she just ran a mile and is trying to catch her breath. It's deep from within her. But she doesn't do this often. Last night was only the second time I've heard her do that.
It's almost 7AM for me. Tried feeding her at 6AM but she wouldn't eat and the last full time she's eaten was at 11PM. I went outside at 3AM to check on her and give her some electrolyte but she was freezing and shivering and wouldn't drink and she fought me with the bottle.
She could've been to cold to drink or she was still full but also cold? I'm starting to worry it's pneumonia... I don't know...
LizHartley1991":3dfdhpp7 said:Finally got a really good look at Mira's eyes. One is glazed and the other is whitish with a white spot... I think she's blind. She's eating just fine now but she can't see... I shone a light at her and have been looking at her eyes today because I'm concerned with the stumbling.
"Also, the hard birth and rejection by the cow maybe because there is something wrong with her. There might also be a little nerve damage from the difficult birth and that could be causing some of the weakness and stumbling. Even causing some of the eyesight problems."farmerjan":ajtlurvx said:Have to agree. You are feeding her too much. One of the reasons why she has loose manure. I've got 4 calves on bottles now; they get NO MORE than 2 qts at a feeding. The smaller jersey crossed calves get about 3 pints per feeding for the first 1-2 weeks. I want them "hungry" and wanting to eat. Then they will get up to 3 qts a feeding by the time they are a month, with the jersey cross calves getting a little less. They should be starting to eat some grain and pick at hay. In fact, I have 8 that are on nurse cows that are eating grain and hay right out of the feed bunk at about a month. They are also drinking water out of the water troughs as well as nursing the cows.
If her ears are cold then she is cold. And possibly getting sick. I can't comment on the eyes, I really think that the vet needs to look at her at this point. Antibiotics might be the prescribed course; but since you are "new" at this, trying to decide something like that on your own isn't wise.
Cut back on her milk replacer. If you want to give her 3 feedings a day then no more than 3 pints a feeding. If she is drinking the milk replacer good then I wouldn't bother with the electrolytes. Let her have water free choice during the day, and she will drink it if she is thirsty.
My bad! Wasn't paying attention that you were the author of that thread.TCRanch":32h15w1l said:LizHartley1991":32h15w1l said:Finally got a really good look at Mira's eyes. One is glazed and the other is whitish with a white spot... I think she's blind. She's eating just fine now but she can't see... I shone a light at her and have been looking at her eyes today because I'm concerned with the stumbling.
I (fortunately) haven't had any experience with IBR but the following recent thread sounds familiar. If Mira was my calf I'd be making another trip to the vet. And I'd also follow the thread. But at least she's eating! Sending the best of luck!
http://cattletoday.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=112682