You've come a long way baby

[Jogeephus]

Remember that old advertisement about women? Seems they have come a long way. Was talking to my Aunt Bea the other day and she told me her parents sold her to a 32 year old man when she was 15 years old. She later divorced him because he was abusive. I couldn't believe her family had done this to her but she said it was common during the day. Said her family had a lot of kids and they were poor and this is just how it was done. Still not able to grasp this I spoke to my mother about it as they are the same age. Mom told me that yes this was done frequently and she had two friends who were both sold at young ages. So apparently, the saying is true - you've come a long way baby.

 

[denvermartinfarms]

When was this?

 

[snake67]

When was this?

A bit before your time my friend.

Most people do not want to realize that in your country and mine, human trafficking and human slavery still exist.

Female genital mutilation still exists.

Selling of young girls to older men still exists.

So called honour killings of girls and women by male household members exists and is quite common.

All you have to do is look at those wonder "cultural enclaves" in certain parts of the country - both yours and mine.

I am not going to be bothered looking it all up for you though - all you have to do is your own due diligence. You will find it if you are interested. If you are not you will - as most do - carry on in your own world.

While women may have come a long ways, there are still a lot of problems out there and not a lot is being done about it despite the talk and hoopla.

Cheers

Bez

 

[inyati13]

Jo, I have heard the same stories. Not in my family but in the community. There was a very poor family (almost as poor as we were) in the community. They had 18 children supposedly they bargained the oldest daughter to a middle aged guy. I know from here you guys will think it is one of my stories, not so. You could probably find it in the Famouth KY Outlook archives. The family was Lucas. The middle aged guy carried a revolver in his pant belt. It discharged and destroyed his manhood. Judy left and returned home to mom and dad. The guy came back to claim his goods. Got into a confortation. He shot and killed the mother. Hid out in a tobacco barn. Kentucky's finest came to arrest him. The guy blew his own brains out.

 

[CottageFarm]

We've come so far in fact, that now many women just sell themselves and cut out the middleman. :bang:

 

[cross_7]

We've come so far in fact, that now many women just sell themselves and cut out the middleman. :bang:

There several levels of that also
I heard a well to do women(someone told me the purse she carried was around 1000.00) say when she was looking at building a new home " this is harder than when I was trying to pick a husband"

 

[Jogeephus]

When was this?

She just turned 85 years young and she was sold at 15 so it was around 1943. My mother is the same age and two of her friends were done the same way. One was sold to a dairyman at 15 and she worked from sunup till dark and she said she carried her children to the woods to play because he wouldn't allow kids playing in the house.

Aunt B never ceases to amaze me with the stories of her life. She has been through it for sure. One heck of a woman for sure.

 

[greybeard]

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[TexasBred]

Probably happened more often than most realize but I honestly never heard of it growing up even among the black folks. Can't remember hearing older folks talking about it either but it probably wasn't part of everyday conversation.

 

[john250]

There was a book: "The Oldest Confederate Widow" about this. A girl given to an old man, surviving him (like that's a surprise) and then living 90+ yr.

 

[presmudjo]

I don't think anyone sold anyone in my family. But in reading this I am amazed at what my father saw change in his life time. I guess I have seen alot of change also and I am a young one. Dad's dad was born in 1872. My Dad's oldest sister was born in 1986. My Dad, the youngest, was born in 1916. All were born in that house. My dad talked about putting the electric in the house in the 30's. The original phone was still there until I was out of high school, at least it wasn't a party line anymore. My Dad talked of cutting the ice on the river, burning trees with his Dad to make charcoal. He even talked of his cousin, the civil war veteran, and how he wished he would have said yes when offered his pistol. He plowed with horses, rode a horse to school. He bought the brand new John Deere, 1 lunger as he called her, and wagon in whatever year that was. My brother still has them today. The wagon undercarriage has been used many times to make many types of wagons. There are still coal pieces in the cellar for the cook stoves. I have some stashed away that appear in Christmas stockings now and then. I remember my mom getting the new wringer washer that was electric! I was 7 when Dad put in the septic and we lost our closets to make the "water closet" I believed he called it. I was real little when the cistern was filled in because the well was hooked to the house for running water. Dad left us in 2007 and I never could explain the internet to him.

 

[ga.prime]

Remember that old advertisement about women?

Sure do. Virginia Slims cigarettes tailored for women. What were they, 120mm long? Much longer than Benson and Hedges 100's but slimmer.

 

[denvermartinfarms]

When was this?

She just turned 85 years young and she was sold at 15 so it was around 1943. My mother is the same age and two of her friends were done the same way. One was sold to a dairyman at 15 and she worked from sunup till dark and she said she carried her children to the woods to play because he wouldn't allow kids playing in the house.

Aunt B never ceases to amaze me with the stories of her life. She has been through it for sure. One heck of a woman for sure.

Just wondered, I figured somewhere around there, but though it might have not been quite that recent.

 

[greybeard]

Remember that old advertisement about women?

Sure do. Virginia Slims cigarettes tailored for women. What were they, 120mm long? Much longer than Benson and Hedges 100's but slimmer.

Chesterfield Kings 101 advertised "just a silly millimeter longer".

 

[Howdyjabo]

My husbands Grandmother and Grandfather were forced to marry(guns were involved on both sides), after the brother she originally married was killed. They hated each other.
Arranged marriages with payments were normal, and the dowry could not be returned after the first husbands death to ensure her a second husband. So they had to replace her first husband .

 

[Jogeephus]

I've heard of weddings like this but never have known anyone who did this. I was really shocked when B told me this but I should be used to surprises like this coming from her because she has done near about everything and has lived a rich life. One day I was reading a book on welding trying to figure something out and she asked me what I was doing. I told her my problem and she promptly told me how to perform the task. I asked her how she knew about welding and she told me during the war she was a welder in the shipyard.

 

[Ouachita]

I know 2 "Rosie Riveters" myself. Nice old ladies

 

[Jogeephus]

Are the one's you know tough as nails when they need to be and as stubborn as a mule when the need arises?

I'll say this, when B passes, heaven will definitely get an upgrade because she is an angel.

 

[Ouachita]

Are the one's you know tough as nails when they need to be and as stubborn as a mule when the need arises?

I'll say this, when B passes, heaven will definitely get an upgrade because she is an angel.

They are both very independant. I do not know how much longer that independance will last. Yes they are tough as nails. They also have very big hearts. They are both the type women you want your daughters to grow up around. I do know they both could still give me a good "switchin" iffin they thought I needed it, and I could only hold still and take it like a man (boy). Difficult to put words to it all, but I think you know. I'm going to the local "assisted living" place to have a Thanksgiving meal with them soon. I'm ashamed I don't have more of me to go around

 

[greybeard]

My mother was a "Rosie"--sort of. She put bomb fuses together and assembled 200lb bombs at the old San Jacinto Ordinance Depot in Channelview Tx in the 40s.