Who doesn't fertilize?

[dun]

oh ok :lol2: a disc mower can't clip 10" grass? :lol2:

post a picture of your pasture and lets see how well the bushhog does.


smother the grass?? even if you cut 3' tall grass thick as could be it would never "smother" the grass to prevent growing.

A disc mower can cut tall grass but it can't cut 6-8 inches above the ground. I made skidboots for mine so I could cut WSG. Worked sort of halfazzed.
You must have different grass then I have since the tall stuff laying thick does kill the grass here. When the windrow is 6 inches deep if it isn;t removed within a week or so the stuff under it dies or at least gets weak enough that there will be thin spots where it laid.

 

[ddd75]

i tilt my disc mower back with the top link all the way back. it cuts about 6-7" high.

If I have time i'll go take a picture of an actual thick windrow of hay I didn't bale. It's about 100' long. all the grass was "dead" I guess.. you couldn't see it. That was a little over a month ago.. Now 90% of it is covered in a thick lush blanket and the other 10% grass is coming through.

I've had 90% of my pastures completely covered in hay from unrolling all winter. it all comes back great.

 

[Banjo]

oh ok :lol2: a disc mower can't clip 10" grass? :lol2:

post a picture of your pasture and lets see how well the bushhog does.


smother the grass?? even if you cut 3' tall grass thick as could be it would never "smother" the grass to prevent growing.

I may try to do that. I'll have to borrow a friends camera....don't think my phone will transfer pics to the PC.

Yes, you can cut grass with a disc mower....let it lay ...and the grass will eventually come thru it depending on how thick it is to how fast it recovers. I've done that myself...not on purpose.

The majority of what I clip is just a few inches off the top after it has already been grazed thru by the cattle.

So, even if I wanted to use a disc mower, it would be too slow for the ground I cover. The 15' batwing is much more time efficient.

 

[TennesseeTuxedo]

Interesting thread and responses , late this winter I started renovating some acreage,40, that was overgrown and overgrazed to the point erosion was a real concern . I started by clipping what growth was there , weeds, rank fescue, greenbriars, and yes honey locust, the hog got a workout . Then I put fertilizer down, heavy, I have since clipped some areas again. Now, we have had a wet spring , and I have enough grass to easily support twice as many head, for now. I would rather clip a 3rd time for this year . I know my input costs are soaring, but this is startup. I have some hot wires to run to better utilize everything next year , it just wasn't possible this time around. On our homeplace, which is 9 acres useable, in a good year with adequate rainfall , fertilization , and rotational grazing, we have ran 6 pair, a bull, 10 stocker steers , and baled 500 squares. Some will scuffaw, and that's ok, it was an ideal year and not likely repeated. And certainly not sustainable .

obviously I'm not advocating to NEVER bushhog a piece of ground, but a great stand of grass, a bushhog has no place.

You are wrong but as long as you're happy that's all that really matters.

 

[Bigfoot]

Interesting thread and responses , late this winter I started renovating some acreage,40, that was overgrown and overgrazed to the point erosion was a real concern . I started by clipping what growth was there , weeds, rank fescue, greenbriars, and yes honey locust, the hog got a workout . Then I put fertilizer down, heavy, I have since clipped some areas again. Now, we have had a wet spring , and I have enough grass to easily support twice as many head, for now. I would rather clip a 3rd time for this year . I know my input costs are soaring, but this is startup. I have some hot wires to run to better utilize everything next year , it just wasn't possible this time around. On our homeplace, which is 9 acres useable, in a good year with adequate rainfall , fertilization , and rotational grazing, we have ran 6 pair, a bull, 10 stocker steers , and baled 500 squares. Some will scuffaw, and that's ok, it was an ideal year and not likely repeated. And certainly not sustainable .

Edited to add:
I will fertilize after the hay comes off.
obviously I'm not advocating to NEVER bushhog a piece of ground, but a great stand of grass, a bushhog has no place.

You are wrong but as long as you're happy that's all that really matters.

I don't want to argue at all, but I don't clip. What is the selling point to clipping if the cows have ate it down say 5", and you've sprayed to kill the weeds. Those are my two goals. I just leave cows on it till that's achieved. If a rotation or 2 ahead of where I'm at starts getting big, I cut it for hay. Can't see the thought process of mowing down grass being good for a guy with cows.

 

[TennesseeTuxedo]

Edited to add:
I will fertilize after the hay comes off.
obviously I'm not advocating to NEVER bushhog a piece of ground, but a great stand of grass, a bushhog has no place.

You are wrong but as long as you're happy that's all that really matters.

I don't want to argue at all, but I don't clip. What is the selling point to clipping if the cows have ate it down say 5", and you've sprayed to kill the weeds. Those are my two goals. I just leave cows on it till that's achieved. If a rotation or 2 ahead of where I'm at starts getting big, I cut it for hay. Can't see the thought process of mowing down grass being good for a guy with cows.

I want you to be happy too Troy.

 

[Bigfoot]

You are wrong but as long as you're happy that's all that really matters.

I don't want to argue at all, but I don't clip. What is the selling point to clipping if the cows have ate it down say 5", and you've sprayed to kill the weeds. Those are my two goals. I just leave cows on it till that's achieved. If a rotation or 2 ahead of where I'm at starts getting big, I cut it for hay. Can't see the thought process of mowing down grass being good for a guy with cows.

I want you to be happy too Troy.

Ahh we mock that which we do not understand.

 

[TennesseeTuxedo]

I don't want to argue at all, but I don't clip. What is the selling point to clipping if the cows have ate it down say 5", and you've sprayed to kill the weeds. Those are my two goals. I just leave cows on it till that's achieved. If a rotation or 2 ahead of where I'm at starts getting big, I cut it for hay. Can't see the thought process of mowing down grass being good for a guy with cows.

I want you to be happy too Troy.

Ahh we mock that which we do not understand.

Find a new saying Troy, you're wearing that one out. That's all I've got for now yaw.

 

[Bigfoot]

I want you to be happy too Troy.

Ahh we mock that which we do not understand.

Find a new saying Troy, you're wearing that one out. That's all I've got for now yaw.

I love it though. I think maybe einstein said it.

 

[ddd75]

Interesting thread and responses , late this winter I started renovating some acreage,40, that was overgrown and overgrazed to the point erosion was a real concern . I started by clipping what growth was there , weeds, rank fescue, greenbriars, and yes honey locust, the hog got a workout . Then I put fertilizer down, heavy, I have since clipped some areas again. Now, we have had a wet spring , and I have enough grass to easily support twice as many head, for now. I would rather clip a 3rd time for this year . I know my input costs are soaring, but this is startup. I have some hot wires to run to better utilize everything next year , it just wasn't possible this time around. On our homeplace, which is 9 acres useable, in a good year with adequate rainfall , fertilization , and rotational grazing, we have ran 6 pair, a bull, 10 stocker steers , and baled 500 squares. Some will scuffaw, and that's ok, it was an ideal year and not likely repeated. And certainly not sustainable .

obviously I'm not advocating to NEVER bushhog a piece of ground, but a great stand of grass, a bushhog has no place.

You are wrong but as long as you're happy that's all that really matters.

prove it.

 

[TennesseeTuxedo]

obviously I'm not advocating to NEVER bushhog a piece of ground, but a great stand of grass, a bushhog has no place.

You are wrong but as long as you're happy that's all that really matters.

prove it.

Numerous posts by others have already made the case.

Now go forth and be happy.

 

[talltimber]

I want to see that disc mower reared back cutting 7" tall and not scalping the ground on the backswing.

And pics of the disc mower clipped grass/pastures to compare to mine which have been bush hogged. I want to learn something, especially if you have rocky uneven ground.

Good stuff.

 

[ddd75]

I want to see that disc mower reared back cutting 7" tall and not scalping the ground on the backswing.

And pics of the disc mower clipped grass/pastures to compare to mine which have been bush hogged. I want to learn something, especially if you have rocky uneven ground.

Good stuff.

my cutterbar is wider then the blades go to the rear.

post pictures of your pastures. i'm just curious to see them. why you are bushhogging pastures in the first place? rotation adjustments might be needed.

 

[talltimber]

That's what I thought.

 

[talltimber]

But I'll do you the courtesy of providing what you ask for, why won't you do the same?
Taken this morning. This is the first trip through this patch.


This is two patches that was grazed and bush hogged to get rid of the heads/stems and to promote growth of leaf. My grass doesn't seem to grow much after heading out, but it does seem to want to get tough and weedy. KY grass may be different. Another reason I clip it is to get the height down to where their eyes are not down in the stems to get irritated and possible pinkeye.




It doesn't seem like it's having to much trouble growing. No fertilizer, but we have had some rains along.
What part of this just doesn't work by bushhogging?

 

[Bigfoot]

I took this picture this afternoon. Wasn't taking it to post. Pics are actually my record keeping most of the time. I pulled of this pasture yesterday afternoon. I won't be bushhogging it, and it hasn't been fertilized 10 or 12 years. Looks pretty sparse, and needs sprayed. Got some horse nettle in it about 4 inches tall.

 

[ddd75]

But I'll do you the courtesy of providing what you ask for, why won't you do the same?
Taken this morning. This is the first trip through this patch.


This is two patches that was grazed and bush hogged to get rid of the heads/stems and to promote growth of leaf. My grass doesn't seem to grow much after heading out, but it does seem to want to get tough and weedy. KY grass may be different. Another reason I clip it is to get the height down to where their eyes are not down in the stems to get irritated and possible pinkeye.




It doesn't seem like it's having to much trouble growing. No fertilizer, but we have had some rains along.
What part of this just doesn't work by bushhogging?

pastures look good. I didn't say bushhogging would kill your pasture or anything remotely like that.

 

[Banjo]

There are a few guys on here that grow tobacco/or used to like myself. We always grew our own tobacco plants....first in tobacco beds on the ground then everybody went to float plants .....grown on water beds in Styrofoam trays. You could set that plant at about 5 or 6 inches tall and we would ......until someone smarter than we were came up with the idea of clipping the tobacco plants while they were still in the tobacco bed...before you set them
You see....when that tobacco plant got big enough to set, it was very tender and if it was hot and a little dry it had a hard time surviving. What someone discovered was that if you cut the top 1/3 to 1/2 of the leaves....it would do three things, 1) It would slow them down from growing so fast....in case you didn't have your field prepared yet, but that was only for about 2 or 3 days then they would start growing again.
2) It would let the smaller plants even up with the bigger plants and ......3) most importantly it made that plant tough. Those tender plants would get tough and would put more and more roots down...as long as you didn't cut the bud out of it....too short.
Often we would clip them 2 or 3 times. Some people had a lawn mower on rails to clip with, but most like us just used a weedeater.
You could have clipped then as many times as you wanted but eventually they would get too big to set.
I always think of how clipping magically transformed the tobacco plant when I wander if i'm wasting my time clipping my grass.

 

[M-5]

Old timers would take sticks an beat the leaves of cotton tearing them to promote growth it works with okra too.

 

[Banjo]

Old timers would take sticks an beat the leaves of cotton tearing them to promote growth it works with okra too.

That's interesting.