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For those that thought the market would stay great: from agcenter.com

CONNECTING THE DOTS

What do the following events have to do with the crash occurring in the cattle markets?

•The report of Greece pulling out of the EU.

•The possibility the EU may raise interest rates for the second time in as many months.

•The dramatic rise of the dollar.

•The rise in the U.S. unemployment rate.

•The floods in the midwest.

•Upcoming Memorial Day.

•The plunge of oil, silver and gold.

The answer is a lot. The withdrawal of Greece from the EU might likely cause a default in Greek bonds that are mostly held by German and French banks. The financial health of those banks would be brought into question with investors choosing to a flight from the Euro to the safety of the Dollar. The EU would then have to raise interest rates to attract new money causing the value of the dollar to rise. Part of the recent rise in cattle prices has been a result of a extremely weak dollar. Our weak dollar has allow our beef to be priced the same as beef in South America which quickly pushes buyers our direction. Beef exports, once barely 10% of our production has risen to almost a third in recent weeks.

On the domestic front, a reversal in the employment rate is bad news for all consumer spending. Already pressured by high gasoline and food prices, the consumer household budget is showing signs of stress. The cool and wet spring in much of the north has slowed the cookout season. This is exacerbated by grocery stores who have lost margins in beef and are not coming forward to sponsor beef promotions for Memorial day. Finally, the flight to commodities, seen by many as a necessary protection against inflation, is now being abandoned as a financial strategy causing many investors to pull the plug and liquidate long commodity positions.

According to the usual plan witnessed thousands of times, the markets moved higher based on the greater sucker theory. The frenzy took the commodity markets too high and now the stair-step up is the elevator down. Investors are abandoning commodities as evidence surfaces that inflation may not be the risk it was considered a month ago. Investors are now withdrawing money from the ETFs and the ETF managers are selling the futures to fund the withdrawals. Speculators threatened by increasing margins and looming losses, are getting out of all commodities.

Cattle prices have dropped $10 cwt. and more may be on the way. This is not all bad. Beef had moved too high and was due an adjustment but losing money is never fun. Breakevens have been touched and additional declines in cash prices for cattle will be out of the cattle feeders hide. The falling box prices may attract new buying interest. The crashing corn prices will help mitigate the damages. Rains in the southwest, accompanied by an elimination of the ethanol subsidy which was introduced in Congress this week, would go a long way to restore some hope for rebuilding a sustainable model for the beef industry.
 
Excellent post.
Still a few too many political unknowns here and monetary unknowns in Europe to hang your hat on any particular outcome, but we live in interesting times.
I think the prospect of QE3 will start having an effect soon as well.
 
From agcenter.com

May 19 , 2011

MARKET REPORT AND ANALYSIS

A gloomy demand picture for pork and beef sent the markets reeling. The magnitude of the drop will allow beef packers an opportunity to restore lost margins but lower prices will add to cattle owners woes that are magnified by sharply rising feed costs. Kansas and Texas sold cattle at $108 - four dollars under last week. In the north cattle sold for $175 in the beef -$7 under last week.

April placements are going to be a big number over prior year. The result will also present on feed numbers that likewise show large increases over last year. This situation will change as short supplies of feeder cattle show placements into feedyards this month. There will tend to be bunching of fed cattle late summer then a sharply diminished supply of fed cattle the balance of the year.

Box prices were mixed in trading with choice losing ground and select gaining. The choice cuts were quoted down $1 at $177 with select at $172. The choice/select spread is widening.

Feeder prices fell with the news of crashing live cattle and higher corn. The severe drought in Texas will create abnormalities in the placement patterns as witnessed by the April placement number. Current prices for a 750# steer on the southern plains is $127.



Corn moved sharply higher this week to well over $7.50 in the July contract. Feedlots are once again pressured into raising feed prices and watching as both the futures and basis are moving higher. Corn is being offered currently at 40 cents over July corn. Corn is now pricing into most rations at $13.50 cwt..
 
If end users didn't just use the chance they had to price corn at much lower prices then they might have missed the boat. When this harvest comes in I bet it's under trendline. Can't say for cattle but with the liquidation that's taken place we should see them up again but don't know when.

Kenny if bred short solids ever get cheep out there I'm might take a load. Looks like I have lots of feed for them.
 
Grass is so good here nothing is cheap but things can change quickly. Got a friend getting a potload of cows from texas every week but they are all going to slaughter. You sure you got enough water for them? ;-)
 
kenny thomas":119p0gjt said:
From agcenter.com

May 19 , 2011

MARKET REPORT AND ANALYSIS

A gloomy demand picture for pork and beef sent the markets reeling. The magnitude of the drop will allow beef packers an opportunity to restore lost margins but lower prices will add to cattle owners woes that are magnified by sharply rising feed costs. Kansas and Texas sold cattle at $108 - four dollars under last week. In the north cattle sold for $175 in the beef -$7 under last week.

April placements are going to be a big number over prior year. The result will also present on feed numbers that likewise show large increases over last year. This situation will change as short supplies of feeder cattle show placements into feedyards this month. There will tend to be bunching of fed cattle late summer then a sharply diminished supply of fed cattle the balance of the year.

Box prices were mixed in trading with choice losing ground and select gaining. The choice cuts were quoted down $1 at $177 with select at $172. The choice/select spread is widening.

Feeder prices fell with the news of crashing live cattle and higher corn. The severe drought in Texas will create abnormalities in the placement patterns as witnessed by the April placement number. Current prices for a 750# steer on the southern plains is $127.



Corn moved sharply higher this week to well over $7.50 in the July contract. Feedlots are once again pressured into raising feed prices and watching as both the futures and basis are moving higher. Corn is being offered currently at 40 cents over July corn. Corn is now pricing into most rations at $13.50 cwt..


Very interesting times, indeed... I've decided the only thing I know for sure...is that I have no idea at this point.
Another great post. Thank you, Kenny.
 
This is Thursday. I was told the "rapture" is Saturday--y'know, and all the good people will be taken up to heaven. Of course Cattle Today will still be here Sunday. But there will be less competition for corn?
 
Looking worse today. from agcenter.com

May 20 , 2011

MARKET REPORT AND ANALYSIS

A gloomy demand picture for pork and beef sent the markets reeling. The magnitude of the drop will allow beef packers an opportunity to restore lost margins but lower prices will add to cattle owners woes that are magnified by sharply rising feed costs. Kansas and Texas sold cattle at $108 - four dollars under last week. In the north cattle sold for $175 in the beef -$7 under last week.

Cattle on Feed numbers came in as expected posting large on feed numbers at 107%, placements were 110% and marketing at 97%. The placement numbers were very large as expected. One source mentioned the item to note is that 10% of the placement numbers were lightweight cattle or cattle pulled early of droughty country. So look for a large hole in our placement numbers to be on the horizon.

Box prices ended the lower. The choice cuts were quoted down $.32 at $175.27 with select at $171.54. The choice/select spread is currently $3.73.

Feeder prices fell with the news of crashing live cattle and higher corn. The severe drought in Texas will create abnormalities in the placement patterns as witnessed by the April placement number. Current prices for a 750# steer on the southern plains is $126.



Corn moved sharply higher this week to well over $7.50 in the July contract. Feedlots are once again pressured into raising feed prices and watching as both the futures and basis are moving higher. Corn is being offered currently at 40 cents over July corn. Corn is now pricing into most rations at $13.50 cwt..
 
from agcenter.com
The ethanol industry was at work and able to defeat the vote in the Senate yesterday to end the ethanol subsidies immediately. Supporters of the bill led by Senator Coburn of Oklahoma failed to muster the required votes but this issue will not go away. Corn farming Senators see the hand writing on the wall and are attempting to phase out the subsidies instead of ending them. Corn futures are falling in anticipation of ending the subsidies. More amendments are going to be introduced today(quote)

Corn moved down sharply and cattle traded higher. Futures up about 8 cents from a week ago on 8 wts.
 
idiots..subsidies need to go away....i cant afford em anymore...billion $ farms getting assistance aint right anymore
 

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