What do you think it's worth?

[Aaron]

Going to check out a low-hour shedded 2003 5460 Belarus in the morning. I don't think there are any Belarus fans on here, but maybe someone knows someone who has this same model. I know of a few locally. Loader on it is an Allied 2596 loader with bucket and forks. I am aiming for the $15k mark on it.

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[Nesikep]

Price on those go by tonnage... kinda like Universals :P

tires are good, it is in nice shape.. I know if it had a IH sticker on it and in that condition it would be about $25-30K at least. I think it comes down to how many hours and what kind of work you're going to be doing with it... if you're going to work it hard, it will fall apart, if you're feeding a little hay with it, it might be OK.

 

[HDRider]

Can you get them worked on, or maybe you'd do most yourself? Is it hard to get parts?

 

[Aaron]

Can get worked on, and can do some myself. Parts are relatively easy to get, either through my dealer, or I phone headquarters and have them set me up my own account. Few online parts dealers in the US as well. We have one of the first models to cross the ocean into N. America, the MTZ T40, or Belarus 400, siting in our yard - it cuts all the hay every year. Apparently, from what I am told, the tractor really hasn't changed in 40 years, just more refined.

Looked up the loader model, and apparently that is a common one for the John Deere models, worth about $5500 US new. Also, by the pictures, it has the shuttle shift on the column, so it is actually a 5460S.

 

[cowgirl8]

Our first new tractor was a belarus. That was back in the 80s. My husband used it to tame the area we settled in. Wore the dog s4it out o f it. I Remember it being simple for my husband to work on. Once we got to where we could afford a new GD, he sold it. He thought he saw it a few weeks ago parked behind a local tractor shop..

 

[Aaron]

Well, went and saw/drove it. Nice unit. Only issue was a small hydraulic leak above the transmission, so loader was low on oil and couldn't raise to full height. Wasn't impressed with the blower motor position in the cab - was a hot humid day and it was a killer in the cab, but could probably make it work better with deflectors, or even install an ac kit. All lights and signals work - no idiot lights flashing problems. Shift pattern is very different from our 400, so that would take some getting used to. Paint is like new, not even rusted on the muffler yet. Offered 15k, but they were holding tight at 18k. New price was $30k. I would be very surprised if they don't contact me in the coming days. It was a dead bachelors tractor and the brother is 90 years old and was ok with 15k, but the niece wanted more. Guess I'll see who wins that dinner table debate. :D Afterwards, took a cruise to the local MN JD dealer and looked at a new JD 6150M, thinking how many new Belarus loader tractors I could have sitting in the yard for the price of one of those. :lol2:

 

[Nesikep]

Hopefully you don't need that many new Belarus's (is the plural form "Belari"?) to get work done!

 

[Aaron]

Hopefully you don't need that many new Belarus's (is the plural form "Belari"?) to get work done!

Sure would be nice to have enough to cover every implement so I wouldn't have to change around so much! Neighbor down the road has twelve tractors, representing every major manufacturer, for that very reason.

 

[Nesikep]

We've got 4 running machines.. a 30hp Leyland 154 gas, it's good for raking, seeding, etc.. a Massey 165, it does the swathing, baling (baler has it's own engine), rototilling, and light discing, a IH684 that does 95% of the heavy stuff, plowing, heavy discing, and hauling bales.. Lastly, we have a 1965 Ford County 4wd that scrapes manure, subsoils, and moves snow if we need to. It is nice having a few tractors, and you put less hours on each one, and most importantly you use the right tractor for the job and don't overload the smaller ones or put expensive hours on the big ones

 

[cowgirl8]

We've got 4 running machines.. a 30hp Leyland 154 gas, it's good for raking, seeding, etc.. a Massey 165, it does the swathing, baling (baler has it's own engine), rototilling, and light discing, a IH684 that does 95% of the heavy stuff, plowing, heavy discing, and hauling bales.. Lastly, we have a 1965 Ford County 4wd that scrapes manure, subsoils, and moves snow if we need to. It is nice having a few tractors, and you put less hours on each one, and most importantly you use the right tractor for the job and don't overload the smaller ones or put expensive hours on the big ones

How big is your place? How much hay do you bale?

 

[John SD]

Well, went and saw/drove it. Nice unit. Only issue was a small hydraulic leak above the transmission, so loader was low on oil and couldn't raise to full height. Wasn't impressed with the blower motor position in the cab - was a hot humid day and it was a killer in the cab, but could probably make it work better with deflectors, or even install an ac kit. All lights and signals work - no idiot lights flashing problems. Shift pattern is very different from our 400, so that would take some getting used to. Paint is like new, not even rusted on the muffler yet. Offered 15k, but they were holding tight at 18k. New price was $30k. I would be very surprised if they don't contact me in the coming days. It was a dead bachelors tractor and the brother is 90 years old and was ok with 15k, but the niece wanted more. Guess I'll see who wins that dinner table debate. :D Afterwards, took a cruise to the local MN JD dealer and looked at a new JD 6150M, thinking how many new Belarus loader tractors I could have sitting in the yard for the price of one of those. :lol2:

Aaron, you could probably buy a new Kubota M135GX instead of a 6150M and have enough money left over to buy a new Belarus too ;-)

Seriously, if you are considering new and have a good Kubota dealer in your area, go check one out. There are more new orange tractors showing up in my neighborhood than most other colors put together. And you can't miss 'em because that orange color really stands out :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[John SD]

Hopefully you don't need that many new Belarus's (is the plural form "Belari"?) to get work done!

Sure would be nice to have enough to cover every implement so I wouldn't have to change around so much! Neighbor down the road has twelve tractors, representing every major manufacturer, for that very reason.

I hate constantly switching implements on one tractor. I have a Ford 8600 on the swather, Ford 9600 on the rake, and the Kubota stays on the baler.

I have one guy to help me. If I could find another body to put in a seat, haying season would go by pretty fast :idea:

 

[Aaron]

Well, went and saw/drove it. Nice unit. Only issue was a small hydraulic leak above the transmission, so loader was low on oil and couldn't raise to full height. Wasn't impressed with the blower motor position in the cab - was a hot humid day and it was a killer in the cab, but could probably make it work better with deflectors, or even install an ac kit. All lights and signals work - no idiot lights flashing problems. Shift pattern is very different from our 400, so that would take some getting used to. Paint is like new, not even rusted on the muffler yet. Offered 15k, but they were holding tight at 18k. New price was $30k. I would be very surprised if they don't contact me in the coming days. It was a dead bachelors tractor and the brother is 90 years old and was ok with 15k, but the niece wanted more. Guess I'll see who wins that dinner table debate. :D Afterwards, took a cruise to the local MN JD dealer and looked at a new JD 6150M, thinking how many new Belarus loader tractors I could have sitting in the yard for the price of one of those. :lol2:

Aaron, you could probably buy a new Kubota M135GX instead of a 6150M and have enough money left over to buy a new Belarus too ;-)

Seriously, if you are considering new and have a good Kubota dealer in your area, go check one out. There are more new orange tractors showing up in my neighborhood than most other colors put together. And you can't miss 'em because that orange color really stands out :lol: :lol: :lol:

No, wouldn't be caught dead with a JD or Kubota in the yard. Even if I won one in a raffle or something of the like, it would be traded off before it hit the yard. Just having fun doing comparison cost-wise. Only orange tractor here would either be an Allis or Agco. We do have a Kubota dealer here, but that isn't his bread/butter and wouldn't rely on him to be competent fixing them.

 

[TexasBred]

Aaron do the Belarus tractors still have the twist shift knob?? Only one I ever operated was back in the late 80's and it had a knob on top of a shifter you just sort of twisted to shift as best I remember. Tractor was solid and did a good job but was like operating an american tractor that was 40 years old and I hated seeing that CCCP on every part on the thing.

 

[Aaron]

Aaron do the Belarus tractors still have the twist shift knob?? Only one I ever operated was back in the late 80's and it had a knob on top of a shifter you just sort of twisted to shift as best I remember. Tractor was solid and did a good job but was like operating an american tractor that was 40 years old and I hated seeing that CCCP on every part on the thing.

I am not aware of any Belarus that did. I have heard reference to 'twist shift' before and the only time I encountered that is when the little cotter pin under the shift boot breaks and allows the gear shifter to rotate freely (360 degrees) in whatever gear its in - happens every few years on ours, 5 minute fix, but a real bugger to get into gear if left the way it is. If people aren't familiar with them, I guess they don't realize that it's a broken part that causes it.

This new Belarus has a straight shifter (not a bunch of crazy bends like the old ones), but still a very odd shift pattern. Our Belarus 400 is coming up on 5000 hours - probably by end of the year - very few ever even come close to that number.

 

[J&D Cattle]

Aaron do the Belarus tractors still have the twist shift knob?? Only one I ever operated was back in the late 80's and it had a knob on top of a shifter you just sort of twisted to shift as best I remember. Tractor was solid and did a good job but was like operating an american tractor that was 40 years old and I hated seeing that CCCP on every part on the thing.

Buddies has the twist shift type. Definitely takes some getting used to. There's a few old ones around the County here.