What breed is this?

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these cattle are close to our house. Are they black angus? I'm learning.
 
Had to take another look. I don't think their Black Angus.
See that lighter color above their eyes? Looks more like Gelbvieh or Limousin.
 
i think they are just angus cross calves. one is eared and one or two of htem appear to have some limousin in them.
 
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Beefy I have looked several times and I don't see the ear on any of them. Nothing looks brangus to me. Not like any of the brangus I run. Which pic are ya'll referring to? I wouldn't buy any of them for my climate because there is not enough ear on them.
 
tncattle":rufbqakb said:
what do you mean "there is not enough ear on them"?

Ears are too short. Or, the ears are too short to be a brangus (which have longer ears than the European breeds, like angus.)
 
The fourth one from the left (the one with it's head down) appears to have Brahman influence from the ear. Probably Brangus, the others look to be black Limos. I guess this is one of the reasons why I'm not so much into black every thing. Every one preaches black but then they don't know what breed they're looking at, only that it's black. Not that I'm down on black, but is it all there is?
 
The brangus calf is the one that has a longer narrower head than the others, the ears droop down instead of standing erect. What I am surprised nobody else mentioned is the fact that the calf is standing holding its head down in two of the pictures. This is typically a warning sign to me of illness.

J+
 
I thought of that too (illness) but not if it's a Brangus. That's just how they look. I guess we don't really know if the calf is sick or if it has Brahman influence. There's not that much to see of the calf in the photo.
 
J+ Cattle":3bo5cr75 said:
The brangus calf is the one that has a longer narrower head than the others, the ears droop down instead of standing erect.
J+

That one is not even 1/8 Bos Indicus in my opinion.
 
tncattle":12efklvu said:
what do you mean "there is not enough ear on them"?

When it gets to be 100 degrees day after day and cows are getting grass over 8 percent protein, they will stand and pant like dogs in this climate. There is no real gaining for them in July and August. Very little in late June and September. In comparison to Bos Indicus influenced cattle. Then they start hording hay through the winter. Pararsites like them too.

Those cows will be fine in TN. I don't think TN gets 30 plus days of 100 degree heat in the summer.
 
See that white stuff. That means it cold. If these things had any Inducs in them they would be shaken so bad this picture would just be a blur. No ear, no hump, no shake, = no brahman.
 
They were definitely not shaking or acting cold. I think they were waiting for us to bring in the hay and when we didn't they just looked kind of perplexed. What do y'all think they weigh? I could obviously see them better because I was there in person but I also have no experience judging cattle weight. So I was thinking maybe 450-600 pds.? Am I even close?
 
novatech":3t4tzpew said:
See that white stuff. That means it cold. If these things had any Inducs in them they would be shaken so bad this picture would just be a blur. No ear, no hump, no shake, = no brahman.
Dang! I've been had! All this time I thought I had Brangus cows but when I checked them this morning and the temp was in the high 20's they weren't shaking! And they weren't shaking yesterday when we were having a mix of rain and snow. I wonder what breed they are? 8) Just because cattle have Brahman genetics doesn't mean they can't take cold temps such as those found in North Alabama and Tennessee. Even Tom Lasater ranched in Colorado where he continued development of his Beefmaster cattle (1/2 Brahman, 1/4 Hereford, 1/4 Shorthorn).
 
I see nothing in any of those cattle that would suggest ear. Look at the picture as a whole. That calf is a piss poor calf it has been that way since birth is my guess. The owner saw that as well as it is the only calf not ear tagged they didn't want to waste the money for a tag on a calf that is gonna die before it gets sold.
 
the eartagless one looks eared to me. he doesnt have much-- i'd say less than 1/4 probably. the two to the left (his right) look like they have limousin in them to me. since the photos were obviously taken within a few minutes i dont think we can really determine if this calf is ill or not and we certainly cant see enough of him to tell much about his quality. the fact that he is tagless to me suggests he might have come from a different herd than the others, not that he is going to die.
 
Our animals have as much or more ear than those and I would be surprised if they had any bramaha in them. seen a few through the sale barn her but they are really out of place here, even though we have a hot humid summer. (I lived in the south and know the difference, you GA and LA really humid).
I would think TN similar to my climate in soIL rather than the "deep south"

And even though our animals have more ear than those calves, I have never seen them shiver a bit. I really wonder where those shivering animals are. It is bitterly cold here and will be for another week or so.. they are frozen (with saliva, poo, etc and no one shivering)*L*

I think they are angus/limo and what ever crosses make black calves, nice looking calves and it doesn't look like they are sick to me either. Donna
 

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