Urea

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Isn’t using Urea fairly risky in a lot of ways ? I just put out 2 3/4 tons two days ago that cost $ 640 per ton. Put out at a rate of 100 lbs product per acre or N46-0-0 per acre. Had one lite sprinkle of rain that just wet the bottom of the rain gage and the temperature has reached 81 degrees the first day for 3 hours. Reached 83 degrees for 4 hours today.

I read that 80 degrees and above can cause volitilzation ( the fertilizer to evaporate and so does moisture as little as the ground being damp. )

If you spread it and as long as the ground is dry and there isn’t any dew to get on the fertilizer. The fertilizer will not volitize for 5 days.

But the urea needs a minimum of 1/2 inch of rain before that 5 days is over so that the urea settles into the ground to keep it from evaporating or violitilzation takes place. Which if that were to happen you have just lost everything you have paid for. The cost of the fertilizer, run time/fuel to put it out with/your time and work applying it. Everything is a loss.

Urea is a little cheaper than ammonia nitrate per ton. And has a higher percent nitrogen than ammonia nitrate. Urea is 46% N and Ammonia is 34 % N.

A County Extension agent told me that on Bermuda grass pasture if you are cutting it for hay and want to get repeat cuttings off of it through its growing season. You need to fertilize in within 30 days after you cut it. You have a 30 day window to get it fertilized. I had meant to ask him why but he was telling me about something else and I didn’t want to interrupt what he was telling me and I forgot to
ask.

And also if the PH Isn’t what it should be before you put down fertilizer and I am assuming that goes for all fertilizer not just straight nitrogen. It can affect the efficacy of the fertilizer you put out.

I took soil samples and applied everything that was called for on 54 acres that I drilled in Bermuda grass the last week in April 2024. And I didn’t get it put out on 18 acres because it began raining for almost two weeks after I got just over half of it put out and it was to wet to get in the field with a tractor to put it out. But I could have got it put out within 5 weeks of drilling it if I had of just done it but I didn’t. Things came up that I just put first rather than getting the recommended fertilizer out. My mistake.

So all of these things that are all important to happen that you are counting on like rain to happen. Which that’s something you can’t count on. Was a 90 % chance last night/ no rain/ 70 % the day before / no rain. And anymore the weather forecast can change in an hour. I don’t think it is even a forecast. Think if someone calls in to the News station. The News station will put out a percent of rain forecast. Just got a flood alert warning for my area and there’s not a cloud in the sky. Stars shining bright.

Would like to hear what those of you who have used Urea a lot think about it ? Whether it’s good or bad ?
 
When everything happens right Urea is good. I have encountered the dry weather problem also. I definately could tell it didnt work.
Jltrent uses something thet add that coats the surface and keeps it from evaopating. Im going to check on it before i spread Urea on my fescue this fall.
 
yea you can have them add something to it so it doesn't go up in the air. last time I used it it added around 40 bucks to a buggy. but its been a few years.
 
When everything happens right Urea is good. I have encountered the dry weather problem also. I definately could tell it didnt work.
Jltrent uses something thet add that coats the surface and keeps it from evaopating. Im going to check on it before i spread Urea on my fescue this fall.
I read about something I think he is adding. Name of it starts with an R, Raidian or something like that. Was reading about it a couple of nights ago trying to find out how it is added. Looks like it comes in a powder form. Unless you dump that powder into the mixer as it’s being loaded into a fertilizer buggy I can’t imagine how you could add anything to urea ?
 
yea you can have them add something to it so it doesn't go up in the air. last time I used it it added around 40 bucks to a buggy. but its been a few years.
That’s how I was guessing they add that. Sure wish I had known this before I put it out. Live and learn I guess.
 
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I bought a fertilizer buggy a couple of years ago that needs some work done on it. Am going to get it operable and am thinking about spreading Urea in the rain. I have bought a spreader buggy tarp that I have used in the past so that just in case it might have started raining while I was spreading what ever I might be putting out at the time.

But I might intentionally try spreading Urea in the rain just because of the risk of volitilzation. If I do try that I would of course try to and time spreading it as close to the start of a rain rather than get caught in a down pour.

Finally am getting the rain needed for Urea this morning. Haven’t checked the rain gage but am sure I have got at least an inch so far. Which is good. Maybe I might luck out this time if I didn’t lose everything to volitilzation. Read that Urea can go 5 days laying on the ground as long as nothing happens to cause volitilzation. Which I did have temps in the 80 degree range for a few hours two days in a row and one light sprinkle of rain that wasn’t enough to wet the bottom of a rain gage. So I guess time will tell.

I did mess up too on not putting enough out. Was told afterwards I should have put out around 100% nitrogen per acre out and I put out 46 % . So in stead of losing about 3 x the cost that I would have had in it. I will have only lost about a little under the cost.

This brings to mind the saying that goes something like lessons cost money and the better the lessons learned the more they cost. Well I am learning a lot of expensive lessons trying to get this Bermuda grass established. Guess I should be happy that I have at least got it coming up and growing. Am a long ways from having a 100 % coverage but estimate I have about 60 % coverage so far. Hopefully if I can get fertilizer on it. I can have close to a 100 % coverage before the end of growing season.
 
When everything happens right Urea is good. I have encountered the dry weather problem also. I definately could tell it didnt work.
Jltrent uses something thet add that coats the surface and keeps it from evaopating. Im going to check on it before i spread Urea on my fescue this fall.
I am sure you already know this but I read that cold weather will cause volitilzation too. So you don’t want to wait too late in the fall.
 
When you buy a nitrogen stabilizer it's best to use one that both prevents volatilization and has the urease inhibitor that slows the bugs in the soil down from converting it to a plant available form all at once. The active ingredients I've seen are NBPT and DCD.
 

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