Un-enrolling crp land

[denoginnizer]

I recently purchased 80 acres of land that adjoins a small farm that I am renting. The 80 acres contains about 14 acres of CRP grass land that earns around 30.00 per acre per year. The previous owner enrolled the land in the program.
In my situation it would be better for me to have the 14 acres in pasture. I havent signed anything and dont want the CRP money . Can I turn this back into pasture and let the GOV keep its money?

 

[dun]

I recently purchased 80 acres of land that adjoins a small farm that I am renting. The 80 acres contains about 14 acres of CRP grass land that earns around 30.00 per acre per year. The previous owner enrolled the land in the program.
In my situation it would be better for me to have the 14 acres in pasture. I havent signed anything and dont want the CRP money . Can I turn this back into pasture and let the GOV keep its money?

Here's a wild idea! Why not ask the people that administer the program, USDA?

dun

 

[Bama]

Yes you can but you will have to repay everthing that has been paid out up until this point. It could get expensive. If you bought the property you also bought into the crp program. Best thing you can do is wait until it comes out and then not put it back in.

 

[Dave]

It is possible but not too easy. The government gets sticky about contrats sometimes but not always. They may make you pay back any money the previous landowner recieved. Then again they may just make you sign a request to get out of the program. Call your local NRCS or FSA office and ask them.
Dave

 

[denoginnizer]

I recently purchased 80 acres of land that adjoins a small farm that I am renting. The 80 acres contains about 14 acres of CRP grass land that earns around 30.00 per acre per year. The previous owner enrolled the land in the program.
In my situation it would be better for me to have the 14 acres in pasture. I havent signed anything and dont want the CRP money . Can I turn this back into pasture and let the GOV keep its money?

Here's a wild idea! Why not ask the people that administer the program, USDA?

dun

I really didnt want to bring attention to myself. I kinda get uneasy when the Gov folks start looking around at my land.

 

[denoginnizer]

Yes you can but you will have to repay everthing that has been paid out up until this point. It could get expensive. If you bought the property you also bought into the crp program. Best thing you can do is wait until it comes out and then not put it back in.

One county agent told me that the previous owner is the one responsible for repaying because he was the one that enrolled it.

 

[Dave]

If you have land that is in CRP the government (USDA) can and will come around and check on it. You are much better off finding out exactly where you stand, what you can and can't do, that to find out you broke the rules without knowing it. I know of a guy who got out of CREP and the former landowner had to pay the back payments. You never know until you ask. But one thing for sure, don't graze or plow that land until you get out of that program. If you do you could be liable for those back payments.
Dave

 

[dun]

I really didnt want to bring attention to myself. I kinda get uneasy when the Gov folks start looking around at my land.

Do you really think you're flying below the radar? USDA probably knows more about that piece of land then you do.

dun

 

[Bama]

Yes you can but you will have to repay everthing that has been paid out up until this point. It could get expensive. If you bought the property you also bought into the crp program. Best thing you can do is wait until it comes out and then not put it back in.

One county agent told me that the previous owner is the one responsible for repaying because he was the one that enrolled it.

Why didn't you ask these questions before you bought it.?
If you look over your paperwork it should say whether the crp progam was passed on to you. Most of the time it is. If it is not the prevous landowner can't sell it or take it out without paying back everthing that was paid out. the bast way to get your answer sits at the end of a phone line. Give them a call.

 

[denoginnizer]

Yes you can but you will have to repay everthing that has been paid out up until this point. It could get expensive. If you bought the property you also bought into the crp program. Best thing you can do is wait until it comes out and then not put it back in.

One county agent told me that the previous owner is the one responsible for repaying because he was the one that enrolled it.

Why didn't you ask these questions before you bought it.?
If you look over your paperwork it should say whether the crp progam was passed on to you. Most of the time it is. If it is not the prevous landowner can't sell it or take it out without paying back everthing that was paid out. the bast way to get your answer sits at the end of a phone line. Give them a call.

Its not like its going to break me either way. I am going to stop by there office today. I just thought I might ask the question on here for two reason. One I was hoping someone else had delt with this issue and two I was wanting to bring a little awareness to the options and or lack of options when dealing with CRP.
Thanks for the help.

 

[Chuckie]

My Dad passed away in Feburary. He had 73 acres and 52 of it in CRP. I bought my brothers out, and was first told that if I wanted to get it out of the program, the money paid to Dad for three years would have to be returned the the FSA office. That did include lime, fertilizer, seed, and the payments for three years. It came close to $17,000.
When I went back to change the name over on the farm, a law had been passed that it could be taken out of the CRP program if the original owner passed away. They give 30 days after death of the previous owner, for the new owner to make a decision, or the original CRP contract holds till the time is up. Chuckie

 

[Chuckie]

Denogginizer, I was told the same thing about the original owner, the one who signed the contract, has to repay the money, not the buyer.

 

[jscunn]

My dad is on the FSA board, and he says that the CRP is passed on to the buyer. The original landowner is NOT responsible provided he informed the buyer the land was in the CRP. However, the county board's recommendation on whether or not to require the payback goes a long way with the FSA on payback and fines. I hope this helps, Chuckie.