i am currently trying two hiefers that i have from tuli semen used on a simmental cow and a limousin cow. i think they are small at 16 months old. the limousin cross is bigger than the simmental cross. those are the only hiefers from last year so nothing to directly compare with in the same operation. i am going to keep them and breed them to see how they produce before i make a final determination on their usefulness. i aquired the semen from larry north, a very good businessman, i believe he is in texas. the bull is honey bear.