Transition from Commercial to Registered

shawn_boroviak

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I am considering a transition from commercial cattle to registered angus cattle. I am simply looking for advice on whether or not it is a smart transition and things I should or shouldn't do if the transition is made. Thank you all in advance!
 
know that for top cows your going to pay $3000 to $5000 for them.where as comm cows will cost close to $3000.
 
Kinda depends on your mix now and how many.
I had a mixture and started culling 10% per year starting with the commercials and have just a few for recips. My reasoning was with purebreds i have 2 options to when selling if there not good enough to register there going to tte sale barn anyway, so really no difference..
 
I too have contemplated this...just MY thoughts is....it seems to me MOST registered owners are larger-large operations that require lots of paperwork, traveling, meeting deadlines, advertisement, having the HOT blood etc, to be profitable when at present day prices I've concluded it's not worth it to ME.
 
it also depends on how hot the reg market is in your area.right now weaned reg beefmaster heifers will bring $2500hd or more without blinking.
 
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I don't know that registered is the hot topic in my area at this given time but I enjoy the thought of know where each cow/bull came from and trying to create the perfect recipe for top of the line cattle. I guess I am extremely competitive and would like to "compete" for the right combination that will produce the best. I may be approaching this the wrong way and if so feel free to tell me.... the skin is thick, but if I am please explain why my approach is bad.
 
I guess I too should have been a little more clear. I am extremely new to cattle period and only have 11 head now. So my plan is to sell my current herd and buy bred heifers. I am figuring on getting enough out of the current herd to pay for 4-5 bred heifers. Or would cow calf pairs be a better option?
 
Nothing wrong with what your wanting to do, just have a plan as you said. I'm assuming Angus?replacements? Bulls? I will say being new in the game will make it tougher to market your cattle versus someone who has a good reputation already and a proven commodity. Again I don't know where your located but if your in Texas and just starting out in seedstock angus you'll have plenty of competition. A lot of the bigger oufits, 44 farms, r.a brown, genetrust, express, etc. buy bulls from each other at higher and higher prices.
 
shawn_boroviak":s5foogm2 said:
I don't know that registered is the hot topic in my area at this given time but I enjoy the thought of know where each cow/bull came from and trying to create the perfect recipe for top of the line cattle. I guess I am extremely competitive and would like to "compete" for the right combination that will produce the best. I may be approaching this the wrong way and if so feel free to tell me.... the skin is thick, but if I am please explain why my approach is bad.
You sound a lot like myself. I have a small herd, slowly building. I talk to as many people as I can, watch the sales to see what sires are hot, what buyers are looking for. Some might make fun of me but I study and read semen catalogs like crazy. I'm always talking to anyone Angus for information, going to PB sales, beef expos, etc. The best reason for a small operation for myself to be PB papered angus is the versatility of the herd. Black steers for market, raise breeding stock, and the options with the heifers and cows is endless. Just my honest opinion, but I figure if PB angus and AI isn't for me, I'd rather have tried it and then go commercial, than be commercial and always wonder what if, once again just my :2cents:
 
If you can afford it, I would keep the top commercail cows and just add registered. Registered has additional cosrs, association fees etc. Join your state or local breed association and plan on marketing a few animals via their registered sales. It will take 5-6 years to get a name for yourself to the point that you will be getting better prices for your registered stuff. The record keeping isn;t much more if any then you would do with a well managed commercial herd of your size.
 
I will actually be keeping 2 commercial cows simply because I like them and they produced great first calves and I am anxious to see what the second calf can do. All of the others are what I would consider average cattle. I just hope it all works as planned but I am sure like everything else, something will not go exactly as planned. But in the big scheme of things I got started doing this as an investment for my first boy and now it will be an investment for both of them.
 
I say go for it. That was kindof our thinking when we started getting registered cattle. The sky is the limit! AI really levels the playing field if you can find a few really good cows to start with. Or maybe just good cows for less money and breed up from there. No, you probably won't average $9000 a bull like the big guys are right now, but there are lots of people out there that don't want to go to a sale and pay that much, but WILL spend $4000 from someone across the county. That's still pretty good money, impo, and justification for doing something that we love to do. Our boys are 7 and 5.
 

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