Top Cattle Stories in 2006

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A Look At The Year's Top Stories
It's a tradition at the end of a year to recount the year's biggest stories and prognosticate on the big issues of the new year. This year, that was an easy exercise. In no particular order, they are:

The U.S. attempts, failures and limited success at restoring our export markets. South Korea has not only thumbed its nose at the U.S. but made a mockery of the entire system. We also gave into Japan by accepting its rejection of internationally recognized standards. These will continue to be big issues in 2007.


National ID. Though very little happened, premise ID sign-ups are on schedule, the National Cattlemen's Beef Association succeeded in pushing for a voluntary program, and private enterprise is putting the necessary components, albeit slowly, in place.

The marketplace with age and source verification, and to a lesser degree genetic and process verification, has largely already passed up the whole national ID debate. Virtually all progressive cow-calf producers this fall sold their cattle in a system that would allow for 48-hour traceback.


The weather. Widespread drought short-circuited expansion once again. Seemingly nearly every region of the country had a major weather event in 2006.


Corn prices unquestionably had the biggest impact on producers financially, not only in the short term but it promises to reshape the very structure of our business. The ethanol subsidies and the corn farmer vs. cattle rancher debate will continue to be at center stage in 2007.


The marbling failure. The industry, especially the seedstock and feeding segments, have talked a lot about why -- despite a shift in breed composition to higher marbling breeds, a heightened level of selection pressure for marbling, and a host of other factors such as days on feed, heavier carcass weights, etc. -- marbling actually has been decreasing.


My wish for 2007 is that the new year be about a renewed focus on profitability, on growing demand, and returning to issues we can influence and that will have a long-term effect on our sustainability, both as individual enterprises and as an industry.
-- Troy Marshall
 
Ok, I will take the heat, I raise both Charolais and Angus Purebred cattle so I don't want people to say i hate black cattle, I want to address the marbling issues... Has anyone else also noticed the hanging weight of cattle decreasing since 2001... 4 years after the major push by the Angus Ass started in 97 for CAB. along with the weight, went marbling decline. The sheer number of Angus bulls sold in the last 10 years is awesome, but more then likely over 25% of those bulls sold between 99-03 were made into steers in the early 90's. And the selection process of Commercial Producers, very few herds have a good grasp of where there program is headed, i hear it all the time, i buy the bulls that sell between 1-2k. I want to try and express the Need for more progressive F-1 operations, the need to feed less Fat and decease Fat %... that will increase the performance of milking cattle, and performance on semen for bulls. Also it is the duty of Angus breeders to grow the breed. High Accuracy is there but it is obvious that through Star markers, that some of the highest IMF bulls are not the best Grading Cattle. Also breeders need to make an effort to talk and help customers with feeding options and marketing avenues past the farm. 75% of Kansas Ranchers don't know how their cattle Graded at the Plant, that is one of the greatest reasons why Marbling and Carcass Weights have decreased, Ranchers were breeding Black because Black is Popular... Tell me what you guys think... Remember I don't hate black, I just think we can improve the Color.. !!
 
Dusty I agree with a lot of what you say.

It should be mandatory that all cattlemen have to feed a certain percentage of their calves each year and sell them on the rail.

Then they would know what the heck they are raising.

It ain't good enough to just go buy an angus bull any more.

Heck, I saw an angus bull at the Florida Bull Test Sale a few years ago have a full 1" of backfat and a 9 sq. in. ribeye sell for over $3,000.00. Go figure.

The low marbling and high backfat phenomenom we are witnessing now was very predictable.

As the demand for angus bulls go up.........the more there are on the market that should have been castrated.

Would be the same way for any other breed in that situation.
 
Where did you hear that carcass weights have decreased. Everything I've seen claims the opposite.

dun
 
I hope not,,, But yes it would happen that way.

One Reason why i believe this is happening is because of the number of people who are "Purebred" Breeders are rising so fast. 75% of them couldn't run a successful commercial herd with out their fav. Cow Journal Coming every month.

Another is everyone wants to sell that $10,000 dollar bull, 1% of Purebred Breeders actually achieve this. And that one good bull looks really good with 10 bulls that suck..

Also people all want to have their own "Bull" Sale. Bull Tests like the Kansas Bull Test used to be a good location and trial to send the top 2-3% of your bulls to evaluate them against other breeders.. Then you win the test once and you have to have your own bull sale... BS.

And I want to lay some blame on ABS< Semex < GENEX < and all the other AI business out there... who buy unproven bulls and promote the heck out of them... Example Intregity... he was in the journal solid for 18 months following the sale from Gardiners. Have you noticed him in there the last 6 months after his calves are on the ground and females are starting to enter production... No not alot..

Also Breeders who have correspondence with their customers after a sale, it is sick to know how many of my neighbors have bought a bull and then never heard about from the person they bought the bulls from... It is sick,

Something I like to see, early 90's a good crossbred bull would bring 10k at Denver,,, Those bulls disappeared when Angus took over with CAB.. Guess what.. there back, has anyone else noted that the % of highly successful Purebred breeders now producing F-1 bulls to sell in their bulls sales... I love it.. :) We just have to get the commercial producers to see the importance of ID and then I hope a premium payment comes from the goverment for quality.. If that would happen alot of black cattle would be culls really fast and F-1's would be the focus again, not the color..!!
 
Dun, I don't have it in front of me, I believe that the slaughter weights are up around 1400 lbs but the carcass weights are down around 1125... Don't quote me on that, but I will try and find the document that was showing the decrease..
dusty
 
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Dusty":qj632ycx said:
Dun, I don't have it in front of me, I believe that the slaughter weights are up around 1400 lbs but the carcass weights are down around 1125... Don't quote me on that, but I will try and find the document that was showing the decrease..
dusty

Thanks I've just seen references to it in cattlefax quotes but I don;t know for saure. I just tried to find some information on it. I don;t subscribe to cattlefax so it was a no go.
 
I am going to call Doc Harris out on this, I would love to get his 2cents on the subject, he just informed someone that "Angus" Black or Red would be the best bulls to put back on cows.. Didn't ask the guy anything about the % of breeding in his cow herd.

I am hoping that people would discuss the benefits of F-1 and cross breeding of cattle to new and beginning Ranchers.. Hetero breeding will benefit every operation and make both the rancher and industry more money...

It's that kind of advice, that leads ranchers to sales to purchase the bottom 50% of someone bull crop to sire the next 3 generations of calves and impact that persons herd for the next 7 years with discussing where the program is, where they want the program to go, and what impact a bull will have on the program. Good Job Doc.. I am just using you as an example because I just read it, don't take it as i am bagging on just you!!
 
I just read somewhere that carcass weights averaged 822 lbs. in 2006. An all time high. I'll see if I can find it again...........
 
Carcass wieghts have been going up at a steady pace since the late 90's. Just recently due to the high price of feed, mostly corn, the carcass wieghts have been dropping. But only slightly. Part of the problem, feedlots were retaining fed cattle a few weeks to long, putting more finish on them. Adding pounds of beef to the US production. And hurting themselves and all beef producers.
 
mnmtranching":1ihqtto8 said:
Carcass wieghts have been going up at a steady pace since the late 90's. Just recently due to the high price of feed, mostly corn, the carcass wieghts have been dropping. But only slightly. Part of the problem, feedlots were retaining fed cattle a few weeks to long, putting more finish on them. Adding pounds of beef to the US production. And hurting themselves and all beef producers.

The feedlots are trying to get more choice carcasses by feeding a few weeks longer.

You sound like the CAB folks trying to blame everything under the sun except genetics. ;-)
 
Interesting POV, but the price of corn would have only affected ... the last 60 days maybe 90 and those carcass weights .. would just be added now to the recent surveys... I believe that the info i read was in regards to the 2005 harvest i believe... Trying to find the information and article.. Sry guys.. P.S. there is a chance i have been wrong in the past, but i don't think i so....
 
The National Beef Quality Audit tells the story of the beef industy, over the past 10 yrs, Angus has dominated the bull sales and the NBQA says the nations beef supply as not made any progress in quality grade while producing smaller carcass weights with more excess fat and more YG 4 &5's

This is a quote taken from a "progressive ranch/farm newspaper" I don't have the NBQA report myself but i am looking for it online!

Other Notes: 13 of the largest 17 cow/calf operations in the US use a combination of bulls including Charolais bulls in their operations.
 
Dusty":y96kyti4 said:
Ok, I will take the heat, I raise both Charolais and Angus Purebred cattle so I don't want people to say i hate black cattle, I want to address the marbling issues... Has anyone else also noticed the hanging weight of cattle decreasing since 2001... 4 years after the major push by the Angus Ass started in 97 for CAB. along with the weight, went marbling decline....


http://www.beefusa.org/NEWSWeightsAreAddingUp25263.aspx

"For the first seven weeks of 2006, steer carcass weights were 18 pounds heavier than last year averaging 830 pounds, and heifer carcass weights were 21 pounds above a year ago averaging 772 pounds. The weighted average steer/heifer carcass weight for the first two months of 2006 will likely end up near 808 pounds compared to 788 pounds last year."

Carcass weights have been going up for years. We're raising more beef with fewer cows and have been ever since we started importing Continental cattle.
 
Dusty":21fxx0gu said:
The National Beef Quality Audit tells the story of the beef industy, over the past 10 yrs, Angus has dominated the bull sales and the NBQA says the nations beef supply as not made any progress in quality grade while producing smaller carcass weights with more excess fat and more YG 4 &5's

This is a quote taken from a "progressive ranch/farm newspaper" I don't have the NBQA report myself but i am looking for it online!

Other Notes: 13 of the largest 17 cow/calf operations in the US use a combination of bulls including Charolais bulls in their operations.

Let's see a link that shows we're producing smaller carcass weights. Everything I see says otherwise.
 
Frankie":2tphmlb7 said:
Dusty":2tphmlb7 said:
The National Beef Quality Audit tells the story of the beef industy, over the past 10 yrs, Angus has dominated the bull sales and the NBQA says the nations beef supply as not made any progress in quality grade while producing smaller carcass weights with more excess fat and more YG 4 &5's

This is a quote taken from a "progressive ranch/farm newspaper" I don't have the NBQA report myself but i am looking for it online!

Other Notes: 13 of the largest 17 cow/calf operations in the US use a combination of bulls including Charolais bulls in their operations.

Let's see a link that shows we're producing smaller carcass weights. Everything I see says otherwise.

Frankie, I'm thinking they are getting bigger too! But it's only because the packers will accept them!

If you'll remember.....CAB upped their carcass limit to 1000 lbs.

But if you think about it, after all the fat is trimmed off.........they may weigh less! :lol: :lol:
 
Dusty":16cxgcls said:
The National Beef Quality Audit tells the story of the beef industy, over the past 10 yrs, Angus has dominated the bull sales and the NBQA says the nations beef supply as not made any progress in quality grade while producing smaller carcass weights with more excess fat and more YG 4 &5's

This is a quote taken from a "progressive ranch/farm newspaper" I don't have the NBQA report myself but i am looking for it online!

Other Notes: 13 of the largest 17 cow/calf operations in the US use a combination of bulls including Charolais bulls in their operations.

These people don't agree:

http://www.beef.org/uDocs/cattleeconomi ... ook419.pdf

"“Dressed cattle weights have, on average, increased about 0.8 percent per year during the last two decades. However, the increase in cattle weights this year has been far greater than the long-term trend, with federally inspected dressed weights during the first four months of the year averaging 2.4 percent heavier than in 2005…..”
 
Frankie":2ikcrj4q said:
Dusty":2ikcrj4q said:
The National Beef Quality Audit tells the story of the beef industy, over the past 10 yrs, Angus has dominated the bull sales and the NBQA says the nations beef supply as not made any progress in quality grade while producing smaller carcass weights with more excess fat and more YG 4 &5's

This is a quote taken from a "progressive ranch/farm newspaper" I don't have the NBQA report myself but i am looking for it online!

Other Notes: 13 of the largest 17 cow/calf operations in the US use a combination of bulls including Charolais bulls in their operations.

These people don't agree:

http://www.beef.org/uDocs/cattleeconomi ... ook419.pdf

"“Dressed cattle weights have, on average, increased about 0.8 percent per year during the last two decades. However, the increase in cattle weights this year has been far greater than the long-term trend, with federally inspected dressed weights during the first four months of the year averaging 2.4 percent heavier than in 2005…..”

Frankie. You're missing the bigger picture.

Quality grades are on the decline. Comprehende?
 
Link Below,
Here are a few of the highlighsts: 92.1% of the carcasses weighed 600-1000 lbs. it does say that the difference in carcass weights form 2000-2005 went UP from 740 to 749 and ranks the Carcass and Cut Weights Too Heavy as the (7th) Largest Problem..

http://www.bifconference.com/bif2006/pdfs/Morgan.pdf
Followed by these problems

Lack of uniformity/consistency in quality was ranked by end-users as the primary defect in the U.S. beef industry. This defect was further defined by four features: Presence of marbling; tenderness; palatability; and inconsistency among and within quality grades. Other defects identified included cuts being too large for foodservice/restaurant trade; excess fat;

And we’re not winning the war on fat. Not yet,” added Morgan. “Cattle generally go to market fatter. About 15% are too fat, but still may not be marbled well enough.”

Sorry I was wrong about the carcass weights...!! but not the fat issue !! Sorry Frankie, you must be a CAB member :) P.S. I gave you guys the NBQA and you have posted every other beef outlook paper !!
 
Dusty":37m05e75 said:
I am going to call Doc Harris out on this, I would love to get his 2cents on the subject, he just informed someone that "Angus" Black or Red would be the best bulls to put back on cows.. Didn't ask the guy anything about the % of breeding in his cow herd.

I am hoping that people would discuss the benefits of F-1 and cross breeding of cattle to new and beginning Ranchers.. Hetero breeding will benefit every operation and make both the rancher and industry more money...

It's that kind of advice, that leads ranchers to sales to purchase the bottom 50% of someone bull crop to sire the next 3 generations of calves and impact that persons herd for the next 7 years with discussing where the program is, where they want the program to go, and what impact a bull will have on the program. Good Job Doc.. I am just using you as an example because I just read it, don't take it as i am bagging on just you!!
Dusty -

I will slip in a few cents worth of opinion. And "Opinion" is what it is. I hesitate to take off on a subject such as one like this which gets as much GOOD commentary as this one has because it is inevitable that someone's toes will get stepped on. But I have strong feelings about several facets of the Beef Cattle business, and I will touch on a few of them here.

Dusty, your remarks pertaining to the increased numbers of "Purebred" breeders who are inexperienced in "Business Protocols" is absolutely correct! They don't know the fine nuances of the cow business - and they don't understand the subtleties of Big Business - and make no mistake - the Beef Cattle BU$INE$$ is just that - BIG BU$INE$$!

There are so many sideroads veering off from the MAIN Highway of Cow Breeding that many of the critical features of running a successful interprise are not only overlooked - they are UNKNOWN! Too many "Newbies" in the business think that it is a simple matter to buy a bunch of cows (that perhaps someone has helped them select), stick a bull in with them and let them do their thing, without knowing what they are attempting to do! Like you, Dusty, I criticize a LOT of the larger purebred breeders of ALL breeds for the inaccuracies - NO, they are downright LIES, that they shove into the heads of Novices in the business under the guise of Excitement, Potential Wealth, Fame, Success and Performance of their Livestock. It is compulsory for the ultimate success of any business that the participants be knowledgeable of the facts and details which will predict whether one will succeed - or - fail. No one person is so capable in all aspects of any business that he can do it alone. It takes a team to succeed in any endeavor, and the Beef Cattle Business is certainly no exception. But you have to be able to trust the members of the production team!

One more or less insignificant tangent of the merchandising aspect of the business is how important it is to ANY breeder to really KNOW the way that the Purebred (Registered) seedstock supplier functions. They are not all dishonest, but some ingredients of the very PRECISE details of continually producing the "Best Seedstock that every came off the Woodpile" eventually have some glitches show up which will throw a monkey wrench in the works, and the astute breeder must know what he is doing to prevent getting taken by a charlatan. I will mention no names here for obvious reasons - but there was a line of beef cattle years ago which, through either ignorance on the part of the breeder(s) or (later) through economic necessity, the Breeder's CONTINUED to use genetics which they KNEW were faulty and destructive, and as a result of trusting these breeders, many small, starry-eyed breeders lost their money and their farms.
Wealthy industrialists or beef cattle entrapreneur's could afford to take the hit, but most small breeders were destroyed because they DIDN'T USE THEIR OWN BRAINS and relied on Farmer Billy Bob down the road a piece to tell them what to do!

I taught Agriculture for five years, and I had to counteract that kind of thinking in almost every subject that I taught - Animal Breeding, Genetics, Forage Production, Land Management, New Ideas - Good Grief, if it didn't square with what Grandpappy did 80 years ago it wasn't worth Chicken Spit. I know some of you get tired of reading my exhortations about reading, learning and THINKING about your BU$INE$$, but I feel an obligation, I guess, to do everything that I can to help this business of raising good cattle. The things that are necessary to KNOW to be successful as a rancher are more extensive and complex than almost ANY OTHER form of making a living. Think about that! You have to be an expert in more different behaviors in Livestock Production than almost ANY thing else -- Breeding, Feeding (and formulating different diets for different phases of production) Mechanics, Mathematics, Psychology of Salesmanship, Banking, Bookkeeping, Health Care, Building construction and Repair, - - it goes on and on, and if you can't accept the fact that other people and businesses are trying to help you - you are doomed to failure. But keep your eyes open.

This is getting to be a long tome, but I am not through yet. I keep telling eveyone DON'T GET ME STARTED because I can't stop! :roll: :arrow:

I want to discuss Crossbreeding and why I think that it is important to not only understand it, but to USE it in some phase of your breeding protocols. Troy Marshall states that he hopes that there will be a renewed focus on profitability, on growing demand, and returning to issues we can influence and that will have a long-term effect on sustainability, both as individual interprises and as an industry. Enjoined in those wishes is the factor of Marbling and a higher level of selection pressure for HIGHER Marbling and consideration of all factors that affect it. `Those of you who CAREFULLY observe and study the EPD's of seedstock and sales animals know that Marbling and size of Rib Eye appear to be antagonistic traits insofar as increasing both concurrently is concerned. To manipulate the genetic double helix bonding of those two characteristics is a sophisticated orchestration all unto itself, and education and knowledge is required to attempt the delicate blending of genes to avoid a train wreck. Another reason to learn all about everything that you can, if only to understand what is being discovered and discussed at any given time.

In the difficult and exacting process of manipulating genetic traits and characteristics, the sensitive process of increasing marbling AND reducing fat % at the same time is tantamount to juggling swords.

The industry ( I won't say the "public" because they don't know what they want until they eat it!) seeks a carcass that grades Choice or better, with a Yield Grade of no higher than 2! Very tough to achieve - but it can and is being done with crossbreeding. In my opinion, the open-minded and intelligent breeder will NOT close his eyes to the proven facts that crossbreeding WILL produce Hybrid Vigor and Carcass advantages, and as a result will put $$$$ in the breeder's pocket. FACT! PROVEN! NO ARGUMENT! SMILE, NOD, AND ACCEPT THE INEVITABLE!

If you wish to cross swords with me on this subject, you will have to wait until another day (or night) as it is 1:00 AM here and I am going to bed!

Good night All!

DOC HARRIS
 

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