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Would you use Cheyenne on heifers? Also, what can you tell me about Major League's birth weight? Browns tell me that he is ratioing less on BW than Make My Day and Cherokee Canyon.

If given the choice, would you use Make Mimi, Cheyenne, or CC on heifers? I was also thinking about ML if what Browns tells me is pretty reliable. Help a guy out??
 
You can trust the browns.

What I meant is how reliable the data is and the accuracy of the data. I don't know the Brown's well. I've just talked to Donnell (?) over the phone. Seems like good people. Some people will tell you that it's okay to use Grand Canyon on heifers, but I wouldn't.
 
redangus":3pd6bqik said:
You can trust the browns.

What I meant is how reliable the data is and the accuracy of the data. I don't know the Brown's well. I've just talked to Donnell (?) over the phone. Seems like good people. Some people will tell you that it's okay to use Grand Canyon on heifers, but I wouldn't.

To be successful in the breeder business to have to have a good name. You can't get that by misleading people. I wouldn't use GC on heifers but I know people who have and didn't have any problems. Make Mimi Should only be used as a terminal. I wouldn't have a problem with using Cheyenne on heifers and I’ve had several bulls out of heifers by CC and never a problem.
 
redangus,
The data that Donnell would have referred to on Major League is a structured carcass test that we are doing with a third party commercial operation in Northeast Texas. All of the females used were crossbred and of similar breed makeup. We randomly mated these to Major League and three other proven "heifer bulls" (Make My Day, Vacation and Schuler No Equal). These calves will be harvested this spring for the remaining carcass data so we can see what Major League will do there. So far...out of 102 calves.....the 60 Major League's have ratioed 98 for birth wt (2% lighter than the average of all calves) and 102 for weaning wt (2% heavier than average). What does all of this mean? Basically, at R.A. Brown Ranch, we now feel very comfortable using him on heifers but his growth and carcass merit are yet to be determined. This kind of data with it's random matings.....carries more weight to us personally because it removes some of the bias out of what you get with "planned matings" in a registered herd.

Cheyenne is also a bull that we feel comfortable with on heifers. The calves don't have as much "muscle expression" as the Cherokee Canyons but they do have a little more style.

As you may know, Cheyenne and Major League are 3/4 brothers....both being Cherokee Canyons out of Robin Hood daughters.

Hope this helps.
 
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KB":2829ixxw said:
redangus,
This kind of data with it's random matings.....carries more weight to us personally because it removes some of the bias out of what you get with "planned matings" in a registered herd.
Not that you need my afirmation but I agree.Removes some personal bias.The only thing I might like better is a second breed thrown in for good measure.
 
I have not but I hear nice things about him. I like how much muscle and volume his pictures show. Unlike Mimi he is not a very pretty bull.

Has anyone used Tassel Executive?
 
redangus,
The data that Donnell would have referred to on Major League is a structured carcass test that we are doing with a third party commercial operation in Northeast Texas. All of the females used were crossbred and of similar breed makeup. We randomly mated these to Major League and three other proven "heifer bulls" (Make My Day, Vacation and Schuler No Equal). These calves will be harvested this spring for the remaining carcass data so we can see what Major League will do there. So far...out of 102 calves.....the 60 Major League's have ratioed 98 for birth wt (2% lighter than the average of all calves) and 102 for weaning wt (2% heavier than average). What does all of this mean? Basically, at R.A. Brown Ranch, we now feel very comfortable using him on heifers but his growth and carcass merit are yet to be determined. This kind of data with it's random matings.....carries more weight to us personally because it removes some of the bias out of what you get with "planned matings" in a registered herd.

Cheyenne is also a bull that we feel comfortable with on heifers. The calves don't have as much "muscle expression" as the Cherokee Canyons but they do have a little more style.

As you may know, Cheyenne and Major League are 3/4 brothers....both being Cherokee Canyons out of Robin Hood daughters.

Hope this helps.

Is Browns going to use him on heifers?
 
redangus":31oj88qj said:
redangus,
Basically, at R.A. Brown Ranch, we now feel very comfortable using him on heifers but his growth and carcass merit are yet to be determined.

Is Browns going to use him on heifers?
Sounds to me like they are.
 
Yes sir.....our first calves out of registered heifers were born this fall. This coming spring we should have many coming out of heifers.

To answer your question about the certificate price, I'm not sure but a call to Genex should tell you.
 
Yes sir.....our first calves out of registered heifers were born this fall. This coming spring we should have many coming out of heifers.

To answer your question about the certificate price, I'm not sure but a call to Genex should tell you.

Did you have any calving problems with Major League on heifers? Were any pulled? Were any calves doa?
 
Calves born this fall ranged from 62# - 78# and none were pulled. All look great at this point.
 
For those of you who plan on it but havn't yet...

The $30/unit sale on Major League semen at Genex is up on the 31st. On the 1st it goes back to $50/unit.
 

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