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He looks promising, but very young, too young to really tell with any certainty. He certainly has muscle and looks reasonably sound
 
What do you mean, he should be ready for fall breeding? He could be turned in with cows right now, he is 13 months old. Everyone up here uses yearling bulls to breed with.

By the way, he looks good!
 
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BRG":ev5w0wmv said:
What do you mean, he should be ready for fall breeding? He could be turned in with cows right now, he is 13 months old. Everyone up here uses yearling bulls to breed with.

By the way, he looks good!
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Some of my bull customers like yearling bulls too. They say that they get another year of usefulness out of them and also they can dictate how he's fed.

Yes, the bull does look good...........................
 
Looks like he has continued to grow out very nice if it is the bull that I am thinking of. :)
 
He's very nice, lots of muscle, and seems to sure be framey enough for that age. I'd like to find one like that, that would PAP out under 45. What is he?
 
By the way, what does PAP mean? I imagine that it is something pretty obvious but I can't seem to put it together........
 
ShuterSunset":159z3hva said:
By the way, what does PAP mean? I imagine that it is something pretty obvious but I can't seem to put it together........
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Pulmanary/ Arterial/ Pressure. At our altitude 7000' you can get away with the minimun which is 45/46 anything over that and you have a problem with BRISKET disease. People run cattle in Colorado at elevations as high as 10,000 feet. At that altitude you need to be in the under 35 range or you will get some awful sick cattle. There is a Vet in Gunnison Co, who is supposedly the leading expert on testing for it. Word is he has done over 100,000cattle already.
 
We put a yearling in last year just because i liked him so much and got caught between a rock and a hard place.

He is going to be stunted from that but we believe he will out grow it and his gentics won't be change. As we only want to feed him for his work, we hope he was able to keep up with his portion of the cows which is the important side. Their ability to service the cows you put them on and not have opens is the bottom line.

i still think he was too young at 12 months but he's made some nice calves. i wouldn't do it again unless i had to.

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i can see he's been on feed. i had one melt that was a reserve grand champion several winters back and we had to put him up and help him. He made it through the rest of his winters on his own until he became hamburger. Keep an eye on him. Nice Bull.
 
heres why yall would turn him out with cows as a yearling is because yall would run him with 15hd.ill wait till they 18 to 20 months.because id turn them out with 40 or more cows.an he has tobe able to breed them quick.
 
There ya go bigbull, there ya go.

Take this with a grain of salt because I'm virtually clueless, but that bull looks to me as if he has no bone in the leg department.
 
ga. prime":34yqz1ge said:
There ya go bigbull, there ya go.

Take this with a grain of salt because I'm virtually clueless, but that bull looks to me as if he has no bone in the leg department.
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That is a breed characteristic, red polls typically have lighter bone than the other british breeds. I guessed him to be a red poll after reading a few days ago that shutersunset breeds red polls. If he was a charolais he would have very light bone for the breed, but for a red poll he is just about breed average for bone.

I thought the bull was much younger than 13 months, he has a very youthfull appearance, too youthfull probably, at his age I would have liked to see him a little more masculine.
 
Thanks for the additional info KNERSIE. I was comparing his legs in my mind to some yearling AngusXCharolais heifers that I have. Not a relevant comparison as you pointed out.
 

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