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These people should be arrested and fired

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IMO you harboring or protecting someone illegal should be an offense such as harboring a fugitive

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(CNN) — Chicago Public Schools say they will deny federal immigration agents access to district buildings and personnel unless served with a criminal warrant, the latest in a series of steps taken by US school officials to protect undocumented students.

School districts from Pennsylvania to California have stepped up efforts to allay fear and uncertainty in immigrant communities over Trump administration directives that would significantly expand the power of immigration officers and could set the stage for mass detentions and deportations.

Following a December resolution affirming its commitment to a "safe and welcoming" teaching environment for all students, Chicago Public Schools this week sent a memo to principals who "expressed concern and anxiety" about immigration issues and guidance on handling interactions with US Immigration and Customs Enforcement.


"To be very clear, CPS does not provide assistance to US Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) in the enforcement of federal civil immigration law," Tuesday's memo said.

"Therefore, ICE should not be permitted access to CPS facilities or personnel except in the rare instance in which we are provided with a criminal warrant."

Nearly 700 immigrants arrested nationwide

The guidance to principals in the nation's third largest school district came Tuesday, as Department of Homeland Security officials laid out plans to expand state and local law enforcement's ability to act as immigration officers.

The DHS guidance memos -- which follow the arrests of nearly 700 immigrants nationwide this month -- seek to explain how the agency intends to carry out some of Trump's controversial executive orders. Those orders call for a vast increase in the resources provided to ICE and Customs and Border Protection, the construction of a wall along the southern border and an aggressive stance toward undocumented immigrants.

Chicago Chief Education Officer Janice Jackson's package to principals included multilingual information and palm cards on immigration law and rights for students and their families, as well as guidelines for school personnel.

"While many of our families have serious concerns and anxiety about recent federal actions and statements, we want to make sure that parents know school is a safe place for all students regardless of their race, ethnicity or country of origin," Jackson wrote to principals.


'ICE agents should wait outside'

Jackson noted that attendance in some schools was lower than usual during the last week's "Day Without Immigrants" events. "We firmly believe that the safest and most beneficial place for students is a classroom alongside their fellow students," she wrote.

The guidance urges personnel to call the school system's law department if "ICE agents arrive at a school and present paperwork... ICE agents should wait outside while the school is reviewing the matter with the Law Department."

The document said principals should not share student records with ICE -- "with the rare exception where there is a court order or consent from the parent/guardian."

"If a child is left stranded at your school and you suspect it is because his or her parent is detained, please exhaust the child's emergency contact list," the document said. "Please have a staff member remain with the student until the parent, guardian, or emergency contact can arrive."


Other US schools pledge to protect undocumented students

Other school districts throughout the country have pledged to protect undocumented students and their families in response to Trump's crackdown on illegal immigration.

In Colorado, for instance, Denver Public Schools last week passed a resolution saying in part that the school board's general counsel "will not grant access to our students unless the official presents a valid search warrant issued by a federal or state judge or magistrate."

"The resolution stresses Denver Public Schools will do everything in our lawful power to protect our students' confidential information and ensure that our students' learning environments are not disrupted by immigration enforcement activity," Superintendent Tom Boasberg wrote on the school system's website.

"I want to highlight that we have not had nor do we have any information that leads us to believe there will be immigration actions at our schools. Federal guidelines continue to provide that schools are sensitive places where immigration enforcement should not take place, and we will continue to advocate for those guidelines to remain in place. We do not want to create any additional fear or panic in our communities."

In Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, school officials last month passed a resolution requiring that all ICE requests "must be processed through the Law Department and the Office of the Superintendent," according public schools spokeswoman Ebony Pugh. "Schools will not permit ICE officials to access any students, without having contacted the Law Department with all relevant documentation."

In 2014, about 725,000 students enrolled in grades K-12 in the US -- 1.3% of all students enrolled -- were unauthorized immigrants, according to Pew Research Center estimates based on government data. About 3.9 million were children of unauthorized immigrants.
 

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Time to dig up old tax returns on these people and audit them .. there are several less than ethical ways to deal with people like the principal. But then again what he and the school district is doing is unethical .
 

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Enforcing No federal funding for school districts that don't comply with federal laws would help.

Personally I thought it was good for Trump to rescind Obama's executive order on trans gender bathrooms saying it's
a state rights issue let the states decide for themselves.
 

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There seem to be a rebellion building.


[youtube]https://youtu.be/0EQ0YfJcb1o[/youtube]
 

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Caustic Burno":qewl2ce5 said:
They get federal dollars for those students cut those off and ICE won't have to go in.
They will be locked out
Too soft of :heart:

If you want action cut off ALL federal dollars to school districts with schools not compiling with federal laws.
Otherwise schools will just play the 'rob Peter to pay Paul' game with the budgets to thumb their noses at the law.
 

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So if ICE shows up at a school just who is going to stop them? The school secretary? Maybe the principal? Schools are gun free zones so it isn't like they can get into a shoot out with the Feds. ICE can simply arrest them for attempting to stop a federal officer from preforming his duty.
 

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Dave":2up9mgzk said:
So if ICE shows up at a school just who is going to stop them? The school secretary? Maybe the principal? Schools are gun free zones so it isn't like they can get into a shoot out with the Feds. ICE can simply arrest them for attempting to stop a federal officer from preforming his duty.

Dave here atleast my kids school you can't get in without being buzzed in from school secretary.
 

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Ouachita":260izgr6 said:
Dave":260izgr6 said:
So if ICE shows up at a school just who is going to stop them? The school secretary? Maybe the principal? Schools are gun free zones so it isn't like they can get into a shoot out with the Feds. ICE can simply arrest them for attempting to stop a federal officer from preforming his duty.
This is where we have arrived. I'm ashamed of my elected officials AND myself. It is time we all deal with this issue. We should do this with rule of law, and we can do this without discrimination. It will be obvious the people's that need tagged for a ticket back over the fence.
I pray that human compassion is forefront in this expulsion. We need a re-set on immigration policy. This is our last chance.
I usually refrain from caustic comment, but now is the time. F?U!C/K them a feed them fish heads.
Until they come here legally, fu/ck them. I'm sorry but I have my own house to provide for. Go to he/ll if you are too disingenuous to understand.

Hear Hear!
 

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greybeard":1f06u81b said:
Ouachita":1f06u81b said:
Dave":1f06u81b said:
So if ICE shows up at a school just who is going to stop them? The school secretary? Maybe the principal? Schools are gun free zones so it isn't like they can get into a shoot out with the Feds. ICE can simply arrest them for attempting to stop a federal officer from preforming his duty.
This is where we have arrived. I'm ashamed of my elected officials AND myself. It is time we all deal with this issue. We should do this with rule of law, and we can do this without discrimination. It will be obvious the people's that need tagged for a ticket back over the fence.
I pray that human compassion is forefront in this expulsion. We need a re-set on immigration policy. This is our last chance.
I usually refrain from caustic comment, but now is the time. F?U!C/K them a feed them fish heads.
Until they come here legally, fu/ck them. I'm sorry but I have my own house to provide for. Go to he/ll if you are too disingenuous to understand.

Hear Hear!
Motion made. Can I get a second?

 

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HDRider":3trwjo01 said:
There seem to be a rebellion building.


[youtube]https://youtu.be/0EQ0YfJcb1o[/youtube]


Looks like it was short lived...........they won't get brace until the sun goes down then the fires will start
 

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Son of Butch":3eq69zt2 said:
Enforcing No federal funding for school districts that don't comply with federal laws would help.

Personally I thought it was good for Trump to rescind Obama's executive order on trans gender bathrooms saying it's
a state rights issue let the states decide for themselves.

It's a civil rights issue. Those aren't decided on a state-by-state basis. Beyond that, I'm more worried about the teenage students like Leelah Alcorn, than about bathroom bills per se. Transgender youth have a suicide attempt rate of 30-50%. After her parents put her through "conversion therapy" Leelah Alcorn walked in front of a semi on I-71 near Cinci. I was a few miles away at the time, and have thought about her the past 2 years since her death.

No woman or girl I know gives 2 hoots about a transgender woman using the women's restroom. Indeed, likely they'd be more taken aback by a transgender male coming in.
 

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boondocks":1dg8q62d said:
Transgender youth have a suicide attempt rate of 30-50%.
That's because it's a mental health issue.
Until recently homosexuality was classified as a Mental Illness, an abnormal but unavoidable condition in some people.
Political pressure not medical research caused it to be declassified from a mental illness to a normalized sexual option.
 

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Son of Butch":oecx3xc4 said:
boondocks":oecx3xc4 said:
Transgender youth have a suicide attempt rate of 30-50%.
That's because it's a mental health issue.
Until recently homosexuality was classified as a Mental Illness, an abnormal but unavoidable condition in some people.
Political pressure not medical research caused it to be declassified from a mental illness to a normalized sexual option.

http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2015/10/ ... ations-dna

1. I follow the science.
2. Even if there wasn't a scientific basis, I can't justify the stigmatization and violent treatment that LGBT people have endured. Period. :shock:
I'm out.
 

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boondocks":88qe07hc said:
1. I follow the science.
2. Even if there wasn't a scientific basis, I can't justify the stigmatization and violent treatment....
Are you saying that
1. I don't?
and
2. that I do?
To be clear...
1. Well duh - ALL illnesses/disorders mental or physical have a science reasoning as to cause of the abnormality.

2. I too am totally opposed to the stigmatization and violent treatment of the Mentally Ill.
 

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boondocks":3sky6dk1 said:
Son of Butch":3sky6dk1 said:
boondocks":3sky6dk1 said:
Transgender youth have a suicide attempt rate of 30-50%.
That's because it's a mental health issue.
Until recently homosexuality was classified as a Mental Illness, an abnormal but unavoidable condition in some people.
Political pressure not medical research caused it to be declassified from a mental illness to a normalized sexual option.

http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2015/10/ ... ations-dna

1. I follow the science.
2. Even if there wasn't a scientific basis, I can't justify the stigmatization and violent treatment that LGBT people have endured. Period. :shock:
I'm out.
Boon I don't want to speak for anyone else, but I'd guess most folks don't want to harm people with a mental disorder.
 

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Son of Butch":1f14zjex said:
boondocks":1f14zjex said:
1. I follow the science.
2. Even if there wasn't a scientific basis, I can't justify the stigmatization and violent treatment....
Are you saying that
1. I don't?
and
2. that I do?
To be clear...
1. Well duh - ALL illnesses/disorders mental or physical have a science reasoning as to cause of the abnormality.

2. I too am totally opposed to the stigmatization and violent treatment of the Mentally Ill.

Well you have to be mentally ill to be queer or transgendered, cause that's not normal thinking, no ifs ands or buts about it. And the weirdos know their lifestyle is wrong and prove it by the high suicide rates of that lifestyle. When you look in the mirror and see no reason why you should be here is sad. Procreation is mandatory for survival of the human race. And those that don't see it that way are a disgrace to the race. IMO
 

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The human brain is exceedingly complex. Our understanding of how it operates is in it's infancy compared to all
other parts of the body and the mysteries of how abnormalities occur within the brain even more so.

It has been discovered there are differences in the chemical composition of certain areas of the brain from persons
with normal brains vs abnormal. Chemical abnormalities are termed mental disorders/illness. The causes are often
unclear, but chemical abnormalities can occur either In utero, many years later or anywhere in between.

Many people probably don't realize Alcoholism is also considered a psychiatric disorder or a form of mental illness.
 

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