Terminal vs Maternal Bulls

[JWBrahman]

Thought this guy was a pure Charolais when he showed up here butterball fat. Probably a Charbray. He lost the fat and gained it all back in muscle on pasture while breeding. 24 months old, moderate framed, easy muscling and low maintenance. I take back everything bad I ever said about Char. hahahaha

Comparison photo, both bulls are moderate framed.

Profile shot from the same side as Charbray. Different phenotype for different kinds of breeding.

 

[Waterway65]

Nice bulls!

 

[JWBrahman]

The way I see it the Brazil beef is off the table for now so it is time to mash the scales.

Anybody ever have a skirt steak from one of the Char x Brimmer x Baldie steers? Mexican ranch hands grilled one the other day and if you ask me it was better than any Prime Rib I have ever eaten.

 

[Nesikep]

Both nice bulls, though very different indeed.

 

[ALACOWMAN]

Never wanted are liked charbray, now Charolais bulls on bra'x cows.. Makes a he11 of a terminal calf..your bull looks good,.

 

[insurman]

Seeing several Char over F-1's in the central Texas area pastures.

 

[JWBrahman]

Char bulls on F1 Tigerstripes are taking over this area, too. A few years ago there were only a couple of big herds that weren't 100% black hided cattle. Now I would say that it is about 50% black cattle and 50% other.

Joking about him being a Charbray because he had some loose skin when he lost all of that feed fat. :lol2:
But, with Charolais you never know because they cover up Brimmer genes better than anything else.

 

[bbirder]

Thought this guy was a pure Charolais when he showed up here butterball fat. Probably a Charbray. He lost the fat and gained it all back in muscle on pasture while breeding. 24 months old, moderate framed, easy muscling and low maintenance. I take back everything bad I ever said about Char. hahahaha

He probably heard a rumor and was afraid of being replaced by a "Hooter" bull. :lol2:

 

[JWBrahman]

:lol: :clap: Bbirder he just might run me down if he knew what we were talking about.

 

[JWBrahman]

Charolais bulls and F1 Brafords video.
There are some nice lots at the ABBA Spring Select Sale on the 29th
http://www.cattleinmotion.com/lots/gallery/140505Broken

 

[RoanDurham]

He looks like a purebred Char to me. And I much prefer him over the Hereford. I'd rather have replacements out of the Char bull you have pictured than the Hereford pictured, too.

 

[JWBrahman]

Thanks Roan. I personally wouldn't keep a female around with any Char, but they work for other people. Some Charolais are as late maturing as Brahman. But I think we can get a lot of heifers together for deep-pocketed young cattleman like yourself.

 

[RoanDurham]

Thanks Roan. I personally wouldn't keep a female around with any Char, but they work for other people. Some Charolais are as late maturing as Brahman. But I think we can get a lot of heifers together for deep-pocketed young cattleman like yourself.

There are Charolais cattle at both ends of the spectrum. Don't enslave your mind to 1970's stereotypes regarding the usefulness of a particular breed. "There are Angus bulls w/ 100lb bws and 1100lb Charolais cows- throw preconceived notions, in terms of a breed as a whole, out the window!!" The Charolais bull pictured is a superior specimen to the Hereford regardless of your goals. The char is definitely not too coarse made as to be considered only a 'terminal' bull.

Id be all over a group of F1 buckskin baldies -- keep me in mind ;-)

 

[ANAZAZI]

If one wants maternal breeds one does not transform terminal breeds, one simply take maternal breeds. And for the sake of argument: charolais is one terminal breed.

 

[RoanDurham]

You're behind the curve-- whether you want to transform them or not is irrelevant as they have ALREADY been transformed. Debruycker Charolais has some amazing maternal bulls, for example.

 

[ANAZAZI]

From your perspective the right side of the (bell)curve is "behind the curve"... :banana: :banana: :banana:

 

[RoanDurham]

What you're ignoring is that each breed has their own bell curve.. each with relatively the same distribution too..