Syria

[Bright Raven]

I guess I missed most of the bruha this time (I was in Arkansas since last Friday)
CB touched on the problems in that region, but they go a lot further than just ideologies, and Shaz mentioned arrested development... Economically, it is a very modern region, tho a contrast of very rich and very poor peoples all thrown in together, and there are other parts of the world that seemingly have the problems making it into the 21st century. Mexico and some of the central/south American countries come to mind.

That is what I see. The rich ones that own a lot of the race horses in Lexington are not out setting bombs. They are more likely coveting Lexington's finest thoroughbreds ;-) . If your belly is full, you got money to burn and a place like Lexington to party in, then, you are not going to be out putting your life at risk. The extremism is a lot to do with disenchantment.

 

[Jogeephus]

I agree, if you are sitting in the stands drinking mint juleps and eating bacon lettuce and tomato sandwiches you really don't have time to read your book that tells you to go kill people.

 

[Kell-inKY]

That is what I see. The rich ones that own a lot of the race horses in Lexington are not out setting bombs. They are more likely coveting Lexington's finest thoroughbreds ;-) . If your belly is full, you got money to burn and a place like Lexington to party in, then, you are not going to be out putting your life at risk. The extremism is a lot to do with disenchantment.

Oh yeah,
then why did Saudi Arabia send a bunch of a-holes over here to bomb the WTC? They've been funding this crap for decades, and their belly is plenty full.

 

[Bright Raven]

That is what I see. The rich ones that own a lot of the race horses in Lexington are not out setting bombs. They are more likely coveting Lexington's finest thoroughbreds ;-) . If your belly is full, you got money to burn and a place like Lexington to party in, then, you are not going to be out putting your life at risk. The extremism is a lot to do with disenchantment.

Oh yeah,
then why did Saudi Arabia send a bunch of a-holes over here to bomb the WTC? They've been funding this crap for decades, and their belly is plenty full.

You have a point on what they do with their money. I agree, I suspect some of them contribute to the cause. I suspect some don't. They like it just the way it is.

 

[Bright Raven]

I agree, if you are sitting in the stands drinking mint juleps and eating bacon lettuce and tomato sandwiches you really don't have time to read your book that tells you to go kill people.

You are wrong Jo. They will not be eating bacon. :D

 

[Bestoutwest]

That is what I see. The rich ones that own a lot of the race horses in Lexington are not out setting bombs. They are more likely coveting Lexington's finest thoroughbreds ;-) . If your belly is full, you got money to burn and a place like Lexington to party in, then, you are not going to be out putting your life at risk. The extremism is a lot to do with disenchantment.

This is why you see rich, American bankers stealing your money with smiles, signatures and electronic stock transfers (read The Big Short and Flashboys), and poor folks stealing by force. I think there's a frustration from a lack of wealth that boils up and produces violence.

No region on earth has been in a constant state of war other than the Middle East

Maybe Africa, there's a lot of hatred for fellow man there, too. They have produced Boko Haram. Again, this is another region with a lot of poverty and living hand to mouth.

 

[Caustic Burno]

They are really no different than any other third world country with just two classes rich or extremely poor.
Their region just comes with extreme violence as well.

 

[talltimber]

Our good home will too, soon enough. I won't see it, maybe, but it will happen.

 

[Nesikep]

That is what I see. The rich ones that own a lot of the race horses in Lexington are not out setting bombs. They are more likely coveting Lexington's finest thoroughbreds ;-) . If your belly is full, you got money to burn and a place like Lexington to party in, then, you are not going to be out putting your life at risk. The extremism is a lot to do with disenchantment.

Oh yeah,
then why did Saudi Arabia send a bunch of a-holes over here to bomb the WTC? They've been funding this crap for decades, and their belly is plenty full.

I still have serious doubts about what happened on 9/11... but anyhow, if saudi arabia was behind it, why are the still treated like royalty here and continue to be business partners.

 

[Bright Raven]

They are really no different than any other third world country with just two classes rich or extremely poor.
Their region just comes with extreme violence as well.

No matter what religion, garment, government, culture, etc. We are all humans. Fundamentally, under the same circumstances of birth, we all behave the same way.

 

[Rafter S]

They are really no different than any other third world country with just two classes rich or extremely poor.
Their region just comes with extreme violence as well.

No matter what religion, garment, government, culture, etc. We are all humans. Fundamentally, under the same circumstances of birth, we all behave the same way.

I've been staying out of this, but "we all behave the same way"? Really?

 

[Bright Raven]

Take it in context Rafter.

Fundamentally, under the same circumstances of birth, we all behave the same way.

May I point out the most important predicate:

under the same circumstances of birth.

Do I need to explain that?

 

[Jogeephus]

They are really no different than any other third world country with just two classes rich or extremely poor.
Their region just comes with extreme violence as well.

No matter what religion, garment, government, culture, etc. We are all humans. Fundamentally, under the same circumstances of birth, we all behave the same way.

All the more reason this poisonous ideology shouldn't be poured into their heads. The difference is our view of what is good and what is evil is contrary to theirs. It is their belief the ONLY way to escape he77 is to kill an infidel.

 

[talltimber]

Take it in context Rafter.

Fundamentally, under the same circumstances of birth, we all behave the same way.

May I point out the most important predicate:

under the same circumstances of birth.

Do I need to explain that?

Wth, go ahead. You know you're dying to anyway.

 

[Bright Raven]

They are really no different than any other third world country with just two classes rich or extremely poor.
Their region just comes with extreme violence as well.

No matter what religion, garment, government, culture, etc. We are all humans. Fundamentally, under the same circumstances of birth, we all behave the same way.

All the more reason this poisonous ideology shouldn't be poured into their heads. The difference is our view of what is good and what is evil is contrary to theirs. It is their belief the ONLY way to escape he77 is to kill an infidel.

You cannot fight a belief Jo. You cannot dictate what a sovereign nation/culture should or shouldn't teach, preach or believe. You can punish them until heII freezes over but you will not change their faith. Faith is strong. And their roots are deep. You will not change their culture. Their cultural foundation is as strong as any on this planet.

 

[Caustic Burno]

Black Jack Pershing got their mind right.
It is all about how far your willing to go

 

[Bright Raven]

Black Jack Pershing got their mind right.
It is all about how far your willing to go

It didn't convert them. Did not transform them. Their ideology remains. I am surprised you guys who profess faith have such a problem appreciating that others might have your same resolve.

 

[Caustic Burno]

Black Jack Pershing got their mind right.
It is all about how far your willing to go

It didn't convert them. Did not transform them. Their ideology remains. I am surprised you guys who profess faith have such a problem appreciating that others might have your same resolve.

It subdued them into acceptable behavior

 

[TexasBred]

This is why you see rich, American bankers stealing your money with smiles, signatures and electronic stock transfers (read The Big Short and Flashboys), and poor folks stealing by force. I think there's a frustration from a lack of wealth that boils up and produces violence.

Really??? And just how do they do this and exactly how much have you had stolen using these methods??

 

[TexasBred]

Black Jack Pershing got their mind right.
It is all about how far your willing to go

It didn't convert them. Did not transform them. Their ideology remains. I am surprised you guys who profess faith have such a problem appreciating that others might have your same resolve.

Unfortunately you're 100% correct.