Surveytime

[Beefy]

So i'm going out of town for the weekend and figured i'd try to stir things up a little before i left so nothing gets stuck to the bottom while i'm out. We've all seen those survey emails that get sent around to be filled out so i figured why not do a little cattle related spin-off type survey. what the hay?--

Ok some of these are purposely vague for discussion purposes. just work with me people.

Just copy and past this portion into a reply and change your answers. whats the first thing that comes to mind:


1) fertility: Angus
2) femininity: brangus
3) udder quality: angus
4) bad udder! hereford or brahman cross
5) eye problems: herefords
6) feet problems: ? maybe charolais or limousin
7) growthiest: probably a charolais cross out of a beefmaster or tigerstripe type cow
8> best mama: beefmaster, brangus, tigerstripe
9) best terminal: all breeds have good terminals but as a breed overall i'd say charolais is the best
10) favorite grass: bermuda bahia mix b/c bahia greens up fast in the spring
11) best calving season: split-fall and spring (less stress on pastures and cows plus income spread out more)
12) favorite novelty breed: going to have to go with miniature zebu
13) best cowdog: Lab
14) best tractor: Deere
15) lol, favorite truck: i want a f350
16) what about salebarns? great asset when used properly
17) breed going up in popularity the fastest: red angus
18> breed we can all do without: highlands
19) cloning pro or con: con for ethical reasons, plus it doesnt seem economical
20)most efficient cattle: for here, a bos indicusxbritish f-1 bred back continental works just fine
21) most likely to prolapse: hereford or heifer bred to gilappi (sp?)
22) best jumper: so far a charolais x hereford tho limi crosses have come pretty close.
23) mostly likely to kick you: something black
24) first to the hay: a brahman cross, always.
25) you can only own one cow, what is she? cows are gregarious.

 

[Beefy]

better in coffeshop perhaps? :idea:

 

[cypressfarms]

I'll bite Beefy.


1) fertility: black baldy
2) femininity: hereford
3) udder quality: angus
4) bad udder! hereford
5) eye problems: herefords
6) feet problems: ?
7) growthiest: charolais x beefmaster cow
8> best mama: tigerstripe
9) best terminal: charolais
10) favorite grass: alicia bermuda
11) best calving season: spring
12) favorite novelty breed: the ewok looking highlands
13) best cowdog: NONE. leave dogs at home
14) best tractor: Ford & Deere
15) lol, favorite truck: My Chevy 4 door with short bed
16) what about salebarns? good place for education
17) breed going up in popularity the fastest: herefords are making a comeback :o
18> breed we can all do without: Any breed which tries to be black that isn't
19) cloning pro or con: pro
20)most efficient cattle: Brangus
21) most likely to prolapse: hereford
22) best jumper: tigerstripe
23) mostly likely to kick you: tigerstripe
24) first to the hay: a brahman cross (I agree with Beefy)
25) you can only own one cow, what is she? Brangus for our location

 

[randiliana]

1) fertility: Gelbveih
2) femininity: Angus
3) udder quality: Angus
4) bad udder! Hereford, Char
5) eye problems: herefords
6) feet problems: over fed bulls
7) growthiest: Char or Gelbveih x Angus also simm cross
8> best mama: Angus
9) best terminal: Charolais
10) favorite grass: Meadow Brome, greens up early, makes great hay and stays green into the fall.
11) best calving season: probably May/June but we calve in March anyways
12) favorite novelty breed: dunno
13) best cowdog: Heeler x German Shepard
14) best tractor: Deere
15) lol, favorite truck: One that runs ;-)
16) what about salebarns? Great place to sell cattle. And to buy if you know what you are doing
17) breed going up in popularity the fastest: Gelbveih
18> breed we can all do without: Limo
19) cloning pro or con: Con, ethical reasons
20)most efficient cattle: for here, AngusxHereford with a little shorthorn thrown in.
21) most likely to prolapse: Dunno, we've had them in all of our breeds/xbreeds
22) best jumper: Limo, although some Black Angus could jump pretty darn well.
23) mostly likely to kick you: Black Angus x, then limo
24) first to the hay: The thin ones
25) you can only own one cow, what is she? Shorthorn

 

[frenchie]

1) fertility: Black Baldy Galloway /angus
2) femininity: Angus
3) udder quality: Angus
4) bad udder! Hereford, Char
5) eye problems: herefords Char
6) feet problems: Highland,
7) growthiest: Char or Gelbveih x Angus also simm cross
8> best mama: black baldy,gelbveih
9) best terminal: char
10) favorite grass: Courtney fescue
11) best calving season: probably June , July
12) favorite novelty breed: highland
13) best cowdog: Border collie
14) best tractor: Mccormick
15) lol, favorite truck: 65 chev
16) what about salebarns? Great place to sell cattle. And to buy if you know what you are doing
17) breed going up in popularity the fastest: Angus
18> breed we can all do without:Minatures
19) cloning pro or con: Con,
20)most efficient cattle: for here, British breeds Galloway,Angus, Hereford , shorthorn
21) most likely to prolapse:Hereford

22) best jumper: galloway ,limo
23) mostly likely to kick you: Galloway ,Black Angus
24) first to the hay: simi
25) you can only own one cow, what is she? Galloway

 

[IluvABbeef]

1) fertility: Angus
2) femininity: Angus
3) udder quality: Holstien
4) bad udder! Hereford
5) eye problems: Herefords
6) feet problems: ?
7) growthiest: Char, AngusX, Angus, Simmental
8> best mama: Beefmaster
9) best terminal: ?
10) favorite grass: Timothy, fescue mix
11) best calving season: Spring
12) favorite novelty breed: Longhorn
13) best cowdog: don't have a cowdog, but i like Aussie cowdog
14) best tractor: Case IH
15) favorite truck: Chevy Silverado, 1995 make
16) what about salebarns? great asset when used properly
17) breed going up in popularity the fastest: red angus
18> breed we can all do without: Anything that can't survive canadian winters
19) cloning pro or con: con
20) most efficient cattle: commercial bred
21) most likely to prolapse: hereford
22) best jumper: angusX
23) mostly likely to kick you: Charolais, sometimes black angus
24) first to the hay: Simmental and/or Char
25) you can only own one cow, what is she?: Cattle are herd animals by instinct

 

[Lammie]

I was listening to an NPR show a few weeks back about this guy in Texas that had a Bramer bull that he'd bought that was real gentle. Named him Chance, and the guy used him to travel around and let people sit on him to get their pictures taken. Chance died and the guy had him cloned. Named the clone Second Chances, and so far the bull has put the guy in the hospital at least twice. He isn't willing to give up on the bull and still thinks that he can get Second Chances to have as good a disposition as his original.

I was cringing the whole time I was listening. I don't like the idea of cloning anything. It is playing God, and we do that enough already with the technology we have. This guy's gonna get himself killed.

I am sure that some of you may be familiar with the story. I just heard it for the first time a few weeks ago. [/i]

 

[Lammie]

ralohfisherphotoanimals.com. I think that's the site. You can see Chance and Second Chance. It doesn't say anything about the owner nearly being killed twice, but I guess that would be bad for business. I don't think that sit anyone on the clone.

 

[john250]

I was listening to an NPR show a few weeks back about this guy in Texas that had a Bramer bull that he'd bought that was real gentle. Named him Chance, and the guy used him to travel around and let people sit on him to get their pictures taken. Chance died and the guy had him cloned. Named the clone Second Chances, and so far the bull has put the guy in the hospital at least twice. He isn't willing to give up on the bull and still thinks that he can get Second Chances to have as good a disposition as his original.

I was cringing the whole time I was listening. I don't like the idea of cloning anything. It is playing God, and we do that enough already with the technology we have. This guy's gonna get himself killed.

I am sure that some of you may be familiar with the story. I just heard it for the first time a few weeks ago. [/i]

Fer real? I thought Dolly the Sheep was the only clone so far.
Even with a gentle critter like Chance, I wouldn't be posing for pictures on his back. And I sure wouldn't put a kid on there.

 

[dun]

Fer real? I thought Dolly the Sheep was the only clone so far.
Even with a gentle critter like Chance, I wouldn't be posing for pictures on his back. And I sure wouldn't put a kid on there.

She was only the first. They've cloned some Red Angus, some cats that I',m aware of and I'm sure just about everything else by now.

dun

 

[john250]

Fer real? I thought Dolly the Sheep was the only clone so far.
Even with a gentle critter like Chance, I wouldn't be posing for pictures on his back. And I sure wouldn't put a kid on there.

She was only the first. They've cloned some Red Angus, some cats that I',m aware of and I'm sure just about everything else by now.

dun

Wow! Clearly, I haven't kept up.
Cloning creeps me out. I don't see much good coming from it. But, I could be wrong.
Cloning cats is unarguably wrong. When has there ever been a shortage of cats,? and if you are propagating the "best" cat genes isn't that fraud?

 

[dun]

Wow! Clearly, I haven't kept up.
Cloning creeps me out. I don't see much good coming from it. But, I could be wrong.
Cloning cats is unarguably wrong. When has there ever been a shortage of cats,? and if you are propagating the "best" cat genes isn't that fraud?

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news ... pycat.html

http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/2003- ... ales_x.htm

 

[john250]

Wow! Clearly, I haven't kept up.
Cloning creeps me out. I don't see much good coming from it. But, I could be wrong.
Cloning cats is unarguably wrong. When has there ever been a shortage of cats,? and if you are propagating the "best" cat genes isn't that fraud?

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news ... pycat.html

http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/2003- ... ales_x.htm

interesting stories, thanks.

My position continues to be that standing in front of progress only gets you run over. I don't support many curbs on cloning and biotech sorts of things. If we don't do it, Korea will. But at some kind of gut level, cloning still creeps me out. Did you ever see "The Simpson's" episode where space aliens clone Homer? We leverage our successes with these technologys, but we could also leverage our failures.
Fear of this stuff is just silly. But caution is indicated.

 

[dun]

I have the same opinion of cloning as I do of exploring space. Gives scientists something to do to keep them off the streets at night

dun

 

[Jake]

They've cloned TONS of clubby bulls.

1) fertility: Angus
2) femininity: angus
3) udder quality: angus
4) bad udder! hereford or char x
5) eye problems: herefords
6) feet problems: them dang clubby cattle
7) growthiest: char or simmi
8> best mama: comm. angus or baldy
9) best terminal: depends on definition of terminal great terminals in every breed
10) favorite grass: big blue stem, tons of growth potential in it
11) best calving season: march, april seems to work out best
12) favorite novelty breed: don't have much use for them
13) best cowdog: hybrid cowdog (aussie, border collie, catahoula and anything else)
14) best tractor: Deere
15) lol, favorite truck: f350 would be nice but out of $$ range
16) what about salebarns? great asset
17) breed going up in popularity the fastest: red angus
18> breed we can all do without: miniature/ highlands
19) cloning pro or con: con for ethical reasons, and isn't every generation suppose to get better than the last? cloning defeats the purpose of this
20)most efficient cattle: 1150-1200# physically sound cow
21) most likely to prolapse: hereford
22) best jumper: Chi or limi
23) mostly likely to kick you: char x then black something
24) first to the hay: fattest cow in the herd
25) you can only own one cow, what is she? how do I pick one?

 

[Angus Cattle Shower]

1) fertility: Angus
2) femininity:Angus
3) udder quality: Angus
4) bad udder! Herefords
5) eye problems:Herefords
6) feet problems:Limo
7) growthiest:Simmie/Angus
8> best mama: Herf/Angus cross
9) best terminal:Sad to say, but Charolais
10) favorite grass:Green, please
11) best calving season:Winter, because we harvest all fall
12) favorite novelty breed: Gonna hafta say the Mini's
13) best cowdog:Aussie Shepard/Border collie cross
14) best tractor: NEW HOLLAND
15) lol, favorite truck:06 2500 DURAMAX Diesel
16) what about salebarns? Great marketing tool ,but watch out for the culls
17) breed going up in popularity the fastest:Shorthorn
18> breed we can all do without:Belgian Blue
19) cloning pro or con: con, because it's not right.
20)most efficient cattle:Baldies
21) most likely to prolapse:Belgian Blue
22) best jumper:Our evil cow from St.Petes college
23) mostly likely to kick you:The fullblood Limo we have
24) first to the hay:My big Ruby. lol.
25) you can only own one cow, what is she?What good is a cow without a bull, but I say Angus

 

[msscamp]

1) fertility: Murray Grey
2) femininity: definitely Murray Grey
3) udder quality: Murray Grey
4) bad udder! Can't answer because I don't know
5) eye problems: Same as #4
6) feet problems: Same as #4
7) growthiest: Murray Grey X Charlois
8> best mama: Murray Grey
9) best terminal: I'd have to agree with the original assessment.
10) favorite grass: Undecided
11) best calving season: Depends on the area in question.
12) favorite novelty breed: No favorites
13) best cowdog: No clue, we don't use cowdogs.
14) best tractor: One that runs and gets the job done.
15) lol, favorite truck: GMC/Chevrolet
16) what about salebarns? What about them? They work very well if used properly.
17) breed going up in popularity the fastest: Unknown
18> breed we can all do without: No answer.
19) cloning pro or con: No comment.
20)most efficient cattle: Efficient for what?
21) most likely to prolapse: Unknown - prolapsing appears to be influenced by management, but I could be wrong on that.
22) best jumper: Any breed can have jumpers - maybe we should organize a jumping contest to determine the best one.
23) mostly likely to kick you: Unknown
24) first to the hay: The one who is the hungriest!
25) you can only own one cow, what is she? Murray Grey, hands down! ;-)

 

[AngusLimoX]

Fun survey Beefy! Beats the heck out of the e-mail ones!

1) fertility: Angus
2) femininity: BA
3) udder quality: angus
4) bad udder! no beef experience with
5) eye problems: herefords
6) feet problems: none yet
7) growthiest: ALX!
8> best mama: BA
9) best terminal: ALX!
10) favorite grass: clover/orchard/timothy
11) best calving season: late winter(feb/mar)cold and clean
12) favorite novelty breed: highland
13) best cowdog: donkey
14) best tractor: Ford/NH ( anything not green )
15) lol, favorite truck: i want a f350 with a big aluminum trailer
16) what about salebarns? great asset when used properly
17) breed going up in popularity the fastest: Murray Grey
18> breed we can all do without:Shorthorn(because randi said limo! :lol: )
19) cloning pro or con: con for ethical reasons, plus it doesnt seem economical
20)most efficient cattle: BA/HERF
21) most likely to prolapse: one bred to her daddy
22) best jumper: BA
23) mostly likely to kick you:the one you aren't paying attention to
24) first to the hay: BA
25) you can only own one cow, what is she? If I had to feed my family - milk cheese beef - Brown Swiss, no hesitation.

Good Fun :D

 

[Beefy]

Wow! Clearly, I haven't kept up.
Cloning creeps me out. I don't see much good coming from it. But, I could be wrong.
Cloning cats is unarguably wrong. When has there ever been a shortage of cats,? and if you are propagating the "best" cat genes isn't that fraud?

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news ... pycat.html

http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/2003- ... ales_x.htm

i might could let cloning of endangered species slide. maybe.

 

[J. T.]

1)fertility: British
2)femininity:Brangus
3)udder quality: Angus/Brangus
4)bad udder:dairyxbeef
5)eye problems:Hereford
6)feet problems:any cows on pasturs where summer cedars have just been cut
7)growthiest:Charolais
8)best mama: british x brahman
9)best terminal: Charolais
10)favorite grass: Ky 31 tall fescue diluted with summer perennials
11)best calving season: early spring (Feb-March)
12)favorite novelty breed:Texas Longhorn
13)best cowdog:none but I like Catahoulas
14)best tractor:Ford 8-N
15)favorite truck:'02 F-250 crew cab 4WD
16)what about salebarns? sell there, don't buy there
17)breed going up in popularity fastest? Brangus
18)breed we can all do without: Belted Galloway, Highland
19)cloning pro or con:OK to perpetuate superior genetics
20)most efficient cattle:Brahman x British bred to Charolais
21)most likely to prolapse:Brahman
22)best jumper:Brahman and their crosses
23)most likely to kick you: Angus
24)first to the hay: Brahman and their crosses
25)you can only own one cow, what is she? Brangus