Subsidies

[Caustic Burno]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13622029/

 

[Herefordcross]

how nice!

 

[Mahoney Pursley Ranch]

That's about right. :roll:

 

[Angus Guy]

Are rice subsities that good? My direct/counter cylical payment is not any where near that amount (corn/wheat). This on the same acreage.

 

[3MR]

"The Post's nine-month investigation found farm subsidy programs that have become so all-encompassing and generous that they have taken much of the risk out of farming for the increasingly wealthy individuals who dominate it."

This got my craw a little bit. Just who are these increasingly wealthy people who dominate farming. I dont know any of them.

This remindes me of the article last year thats said farmers make over $100 a year on average. The study failed to differintiate between various farm enterprises and grouped Vineyards, citrus and everything from wheat to chickens to tomatoes together to get their average.

I agree with CB though. Like welfare, farm subsidies need a major overhaul. Neither needs to go away, they just need to be a temporary fix for times of need.

 

[RainMan]

Not surprised by the number of posts to this thread. Or should I say "lack thereof". Have read prior threads on this subject and it is apparent a number of members on this board, who receive some form of welfare, can't even bring themselves to call this a joke for fear of prior post pointing out where they stand on subsidies. Must not be able to take their heads out of the trough long enough to >>>>> If you can't make a living without subsidies you should go broke.

 

[VanC]

Not surprised by the number of posts to this thread. Or should I say "lack thereof". Have read prior threads on this subject and it is apparent a number of members on this board, who receive some form of welfare, can't even bring themselves to call this a joke for fear of prior post pointing out where they stand on subsidies. Must not be able to take their heads out of the trough long enough to >>>>> If you can't make a living without subsidies you should go broke.

I think the "lack thereof" has more to do with the fact that there aren't a lot of rice farmers on here so the article doesn't have much relevancy. Of course it's a joke, just like most government operations are. You could find thousands of such cases about just about anything if you looked for it. Maybe if you, and others, spent more time working to change such things, instead of looking down your noses at others, something could be done about it.

 

[Anonymous]

Not surprised by the number of posts to this thread. Or should I say "lack thereof". Have read prior threads on this subject and it is apparent a number of members on this board, who receive some form of welfare, can't even bring themselves to call this a joke for fear of prior post pointing out where they stand on subsidies. Must not be able to take their heads out of the trough long enough to >>>>> If you can't make a living without subsidies you should go broke.

I think the "lack thereof" has more to do with the fact that there aren't a lot of rice farmers on here so the article doesn't have much relevancy. Of course it's a joke, just like most government operations are. You could find thousands of such cases about just about anything if you looked for it. Maybe if you, and others, spent more time working to change such things, instead of looking down your noses at others, something could be done about it.

well if anybody else is like me...I think the "lack thereof" is because we are too lazy to read the whole article so we have no idea what it's really about :)

 

[Workinonit Farm]

well if anybody else is like me...I think the "lack thereof" is because we are too lazy to read the whole article so we have no idea what it's really about :)

I read the article, all of it.
:roll:

Katherine

 

[Alan]

well if anybody else is like me...I think the "lack thereof" is because we are too lazy to read the whole article so we have no idea what it's really about :)

I read the article, all of it.
:roll:

Katherine

Okay you read it, now what? For little out fits like I have I hate the fact that my tax dollars will fund hand outs! Key words my tax $

Alan

 

[KMacGinley]

I like how they say they tried to give the money back. I believe that you have to sign up every year to get the check. :D :D :D

 

[KMacGinley]

The Post's nine-month investigation found farm subsidy programs that have become so all-encompassing and generous that they have taken much of the risk out of farming for the increasingly wealthy individuals who dominate it.

This got my craw a little bit. Just who are these increasingly wealthy people who dominate farming. I dont know any of them.

This remindes me of the article last year thats said farmers make over $100 a year on average. The study failed to differintiate between various farm enterprises and grouped Vineyards, citrus and everything from wheat to chickens to tomatoes together to get their average.

3MR: Drive by a coffee shop and check out the pickup trucks sitting in the parking lot. In our neck of the woods the grain farmers work about 3 months a year and drink coffee and gossip the rest of the time when they are not going to Florida on trips. Their hat bills are curved to look in the mailbox easier to see if the government check arrived. :D

I agree with CB though. Like welfare, farm subsidies need a major overhaul. Neither needs to go away, they just need to be a temporary fix for times of need.

 

[Alice]

Not surprised by the number of posts to this thread. Or should I say "lack thereof". Have read prior threads on this subject and it is apparent a number of members on this board, who receive some form of welfare, can't even bring themselves to call this a joke for fear of prior post pointing out where they stand on subsidies. Must not be able to take their heads out of the trough long enough to >>>>> If you can't make a living without subsidies you should go broke.

I think the "lack thereof" has more to do with the fact that there aren't a lot of rice farmers on here so the article doesn't have much relevancy. Of course it's a joke, just like most government operations are. You could find thousands of such cases about just about anything if you looked for it. Maybe if you, and others, spent more time working to change such things, instead of looking down your noses at others, something could be done about it.

well if anybody else is like me...I think the "lack thereof" is because we are too lazy to read the whole article so we have no idea what it's really about :)

Chuckle...sorry, I have no idea about subsidies, so being neutral in all of this, I thought what you wrote, pro or con, was worth a chuckle. ;-) In other words, I liked it...

Alice

 

[Anonymous]

well if anybody else is like me...I think the "lack thereof" is because we are too lazy to read the whole article so we have no idea what it's really about :)

I read the article, all of it.
:roll:

Katherine

I read the first part...heard about some people getting money just because their land USED to be a rice farm...when I got done reading that...I closed it because I think I would have been very angry by the end of the article

 

[longhorn314]

Some say they didn't like taking the money and wanted to give it back to the government but they kept cashing the check every year.I bet they were running to their mailboxes to get that darn check.

 

[3MR]

The Post's nine-month investigation found farm subsidy programs that have become so all-encompassing and generous that they have taken much of the risk out of farming for the increasingly wealthy individuals who dominate it.

This got my craw a little bit. Just who are these increasingly wealthy people who dominate farming. I dont know any of them.

This remindes me of the article last year thats said farmers make over $100 a year on average. The study failed to differintiate between various farm enterprises and grouped Vineyards, citrus and everything from wheat to chickens to tomatoes together to get their average.

3MR: Drive by a coffee shop and check out the pickup trucks sitting in the parking lot. In our neck of the woods the grain farmers work about 3 months a year and drink coffee and gossip the rest of the time when they are not going to Florida on trips. Their hat bills are curved to look in the mailbox easier to see if the government check arrived. :D

I agree with CB though. Like welfare, farm subsidies need a major overhaul. Neither needs to go away, they just need to be a temporary fix for times of need.

KMacGinley -- Ok due a study on grain farmers then and say how much they make on average. Lumping everybody engaged in agribusiiness together to inlcudle family farmers and corporate farms is like lumping the people who male silicone chips in with the guys making the rubber bands and then insinuating the rubber band guy is getting rich because on average people working in production make a lot of money. Its just like any other study, it will go the way the people doing it want it to.

As far as the brand new pickups. Call it a quirk of my job, but I never accept assumptions, they are rarely completely accurate and will routinely get you into trouble. 8) 8)

Im not disputing what you say, but just because they have a new truck doesnt mean the government paid for it. Maybe you know them and know the subsidy check paid for it, I dont!

First let me prefase this by stating I have never received farm subsidies or welfare. I have received other benefits like low intrest loans.

I think welfare and farm subsidies are in the same boat. They are both a needed evil. I 100% support helping someone get back on their feet who is also willing to help themselves. Both systems seem counterproductive to that right now and need a complete overhaul.

As far as the article, I read the entire thing. I think its a perfect example of why an overhaul is needed.

 

[Workinonit Farm]

well if anybody else is like me...I think the "lack thereof" is because we are too lazy to read the whole article so we have no idea what it's really about :)

I read the article, all of it.
:roll:

Katherine

Okay you read it, now what?

Alan

I think the program could use some changes. I'm not sure how I could go about making those changes, besides the power of the vote, be it an educated vote, by reading whatever bills/propositions etc. being brought to the house, senate etc. I think there is a place for ceratin subsidies at certain times under certain circumstances as a temporary aid.

But that's just an opinion.

Katherine

 

[Workinonit Farm]

well if anybody else is like me...I think the "lack thereof" is because we are too lazy to read the whole article so we have no idea what it's really about :)

I read the article, all of it.
:roll:

Katherine

...I closed it because I think I would have been very angry by the end of the article

I think you would have been.

Katherine