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We recently lost one of our 550 lb. steers that had been bought on Oct. 15th. It died Nov.27th. It had what appeared to be bloat but was very soft, unlike a grain or alfalfa bloat that is drum skin hard and tight.It also had swelling on either side of it's jaws and down in the brisket.It had labored breathing and was off feed. We gave it electrolytes via stomach tube, LA, Nuflor and Fluenaze to help with the breathing...but to no avail.We currently have one more in the sick pen with the same symtoms.It was purchased on Oct.29th. We have a total of 253(less one)head and they had been purchased in different groups between Oct.15th and Nov.7th and upon arrival are all treated with 30ml of LA, Ivomec, Blackleg and Pyramid 4. If someone can help explain what it is and what's causing this ,and a possible cure/prevention,it would be appreciated. Cattle are being fed good quality grass hay bales supplemented with a 13% pellet ration fed free choice along with cobalt salt blocks along with medi salt blocks. Cattle are all similar weights and they have access to a good water supply. We've never experienced anything like what these 2 have before. Last year we had 222 with zero losses. Cattle are on about 15 acres of space so overcrowding is not an issue. We are from Saskatchewan, Canada. We think it may be pnuemonia??
 
Vet has been out and has done an autopsy on one that has passed...confirmed,respiratory infection/pnuemonia.
 
deerejohn":2tvox50e said:
We recently lost one of our 550 lb. steers that had been bought on Oct. 15th. It died Nov.27th. It had what appeared to be bloat but was very soft, unlike a grain or alfalfa bloat that is drum skin hard and tight.It also had swelling on either side of it's jaws and down in the brisket.It had labored breathing and was off feed. We gave it electrolytes via stomach tube, LA, Nuflor and Fluenaze to help with the breathing...but to no avail.We currently have one more in the sick pen with the same symtoms.It was purchased on Oct.29th. We have a total of 253(less one)head and they had been purchased in different groups between Oct.15th and Nov.7th and upon arrival are all treated with 30ml of LA, Ivomec, Blackleg and Pyramid 4. If someone can help explain what it is and what's causing this ,and a possible cure/prevention,it would be appreciated. Cattle are being fed good quality grass hay bales supplemented with a 13% pellet ration fed free choice along with cobalt salt blocks along with medi salt blocks. Cattle are all similar weights and they have access to a good water supply. We've never experienced anything like what these 2 have before. Last year we had 222 with zero losses. Cattle are on about 15 acres of space so overcrowding is not an issue. We are from Saskatchewan, Canada. We think it may be pnuemonia??
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deerejohn":2gshyjy8 said:
We've never experienced anything like what these 2 have before. Last year we had 222 with zero losses. Cattle are on about 15 acres of space so overcrowding is not an issue. We are from Saskatchewan, Canada. We think it may be pnuemonia??
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Every year is different.
Three percent death loss is considered the upper limit of acceptability with stockers.
Yes, could be pneumonia. Some will tip over months later from pneumonia when something else stresses them a little more.
If you co mingle stressed cattle you should be vaccinating for pneumonia, as well as BRD.
Magic meds don't always work. Don't ask me how I know. Start taking rectal temps if they are slow and keep switching meds till he dies or responds.
And when in doubt - - always take them for walks. They need to feel the love.
 
So did your vet not offer advice and information after doing the necropsy.....? I understand getting a second opinion (been there done that, frequently) but it sounds like you're after the basics of what and how. Your vet should be able to help you on that one.
 

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