SICK CALVES - HOW DO YOU KNOW?

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SICK CALVES - HOW DO YOU KNOW?
by Stephen P. Hammack, Beef Cattle Specialist
Texas A&M Research & Extension Center - Stephenville

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One of the first things junior calf feeders need to learn is how to tell if calves are sick, or may be getting sick. Before you can tell if calves might be starting to get sick, you need to know how they act when well.
One of the signs of well calves is eating. If calves start to eat less, or don't eat at all, this may be one of the first signs of sickness. Also, if calves are alert, stretch their back when they get up, and are ruminating, then they're probably not sick.

Ruminating is a characteristic of animals with a complex digestive system called ruminants, such as cattle and sheep, but not swine or horses. Ruminants eat fast and then later "reprocess" the coarser parts of what they eat. They do this by regurgitating these parts back to the mouth, rechewing and mixing with saliva, and, finally, reswallowing. This is commonly referred to as "chewing the cud", and is a sign of a contented, relaxed, usually healthy animal. If you observe closely, you can see the physical signs of rumination.

If you'll watch your calves regularly, you'll better understand normal behavior. Then, if calves start to get sick, you'll recognize the early signs. But if you don't know how a healthy animal acts, you may not notice problems until a calf is very sick.

Now what are some of the signs of sick calves? Well, you've probably already guessed some of them from what we've already talked about. We'll first just list some symptoms and then talk about what might cause them:
Leaves some feed or quits eating entirely
Dull eyes, not alert, droopy ears
Diarrhea (scours)
Runny nose
Dry nose
Cough
Temperature
Swollen or puffy left side
Limping
Unusual skin conditions
As we've said before, if calves leave some feed they may be in the early stage of sickness. Or, it may just be that you're giving them more than they want to eat. Dull eyes, droopy ears, and general depression also may be early signs of problems to come.

Diarrhea, also called loose bowels or scours, is usually a sign of problems. There are several types of scours. Loose, bubbly scours without other signs may be due to feeding problems, especially too much high grain feed. Scours along with other symptoms may be due to some kind of infection. Scours with blood may be due to a particular infection called coccidiosis.

A runny or dry nose along with coughing is generally a sign of advanced sickness, often a respiratory infection (lungs, throat, nose). If you see these signs in calves, it is a good idea to take their temperature. To do this you need a rectal thermometer. Be sure to get the kind with a hole in one end so you can tie a string through the hole. This will prevent the thermometer from being drawn up inside the rectum, which could cause serious injury.

Don't be concerned if the temperature is a little higher than you might expect. Cattle have a higher normal temperature than people. The normal rectal temperature of cattle is between 101 and 102 degrees, and this may go up a degree or so for some animals, especially during the heat of the day in summer. If a human has a temperature this high, they're probably sick, since the normal temperature of humans is between 98 and 99 degrees.

Some experts consider 104 degrees to be the dividing line of a serious condition in cattle. Respiration rate also can be a guide. The normal rate in cattle is about 30 breaths per minute (one every two seconds), over twice as fast as humans. But this rate can vary a lot.

If calves look swelled or puffed up high on the left side just in front of the hip, this is due to a condition called bloat. Cattle ordinarily belch large amounts of gas during digestion. But various things can interfere with this normal loss of gas. Severely bloated calves can die quickly.

A sure sign of problems is limping. This may be due to injury, hooves trimmed too close, or infections such as foot rot. Swelling and heat just above the hoof are signs of foot rot.

Watch for various kinds of skin problems. Loss of hair may be caused by such things as ringworm, lice, or mange. Warts also can be a problem.

These are some of the more common signs of sickness or unusual health conditions in cattle. Again, study your calves closely every day and you'll be more aware of potential problems. It is a good idea to write down symptoms and conditions so when you talk to your parents, County Extension Agent, Ag Science Teacher, veterinarian, or other advisors they'll have a better idea of what might be wrong.

Ideas and directions for treating health problems are contained in Managing Beef Cattle for Show on the Texas A&M Animal Science Extension website http://animalscience-extension/
 
Great post Frenchie, the first thing I look at are the the eyes and ears. I but a lot from the salebarn and I don't have a lot of time to look them over in the ring. A quick glance at the eyes and ears can tell a lot.
 
Bama":yq0ybzfm said:
Great post Frenchie, the first thing I look at are the the eyes and ears. I but a lot from the salebarn and I don't have a lot of time to look them over in the ring. A quick glance at the eyes and ears can tell a lot.

"Bama" You buy stockers,or just breeding stock.
 
Bama":23v3vd2f said:
Great post Frenchie, the first thing I look at are the the eyes and ears. I but a lot from the salebarn and I don't have a lot of time to look them over in the ring. A quick glance at the eyes and ears can tell a lot.
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bama,

Not kowing the animals from the auction barn...how do you approach the basic conditioning/prevention shots? I doubt much is known about them when you purchase.....or do you call owners to see what they have had already? Or do you think that matters?

Excellent post...frenchie!
 
I buy stocker calves from the barn. I buy some that are healthy. These go to a differant pasture. Of these I tag em and may or not innoculate them. Depending on their condition. I always keep them seperate from the others in case something gets by me that needs attention. Then I buy some weaker ones. Ones that I can get cheap. I buy the ones I can make something out of hopefully. These gennerally get tagged, dewormed, and bovisheild gold as quickly as possible. They stay away from the herd for a longer period of time. At the barns around here you don't know where the calves come from. Some of them I know and some of them come from several states away. I also have a herd that are my keepers. My keepers culls go into one of the other bunches to be sold at a later date. As I have mentioned before this is a very risky way of making money. I have bought calves for as cheap as $40.00 and made something out of him. Not the best in the bunch but I made good money off of him. I have also lost a few, but I find that this works well for me. BTW I have a multicolored herd, Most of my keepers are black but I have most all the beef breeds covered.
 
Bama":24725eyx said:
I buy stocker calves from the barn. I buy some that are healthy. These go to a differant pasture. Of these I tag em and may or not innoculate them. Depending on their condition. I always keep them seperate from the others in case something gets by me that needs attention. Then I buy some weaker ones. Ones that I can get cheap. I buy the ones I can make something out of hopefully. These gennerally get tagged, dewormed, and bovisheild gold as quickly as possible. They stay away from the herd for a longer period of time. At the barns around here you don't know where the calves come from. Some of them I know and some of them come from several states away. I also have a herd that are my keepers. My keepers culls go into one of the other bunches to be sold at a later date. As I have mentioned before this is a very risky way of making money. I have bought calves for as cheap as $40.00 and made something out of him. Not the best in the bunch but I made good money off of him. I have also lost a few, but I find that this works well for me. BTW I have a multicolored herd, Most of my keepers are black but I have most all the beef breeds covered.

Sounds like you got a good thing going... :)
 
Be forewarned good things can go bad fast if you don't pay a lot of attention to what your doing. The number one thing that affects my profit is the purchase price. Another rule I use is don't spend a dollar to make a dime.
 
Bama":kfa1ulfj said:
Be forewarned good things can go bad fast if you don't pay a lot of attention to what your doing. The number one thing that affects my profit is the purchase price. Another rule I use is don't spend a dollar to make a dime.


I know exactly what you mean,I,m your Canadian equivalent :lol:

I buy 2/3 ,s average quality,and last 1/3 are junk cattle ,that i feel i can improve..ie dehorning, castarating , deworming etc.

Our biggest trouble is summer pneumonia. I feed everything Neonycim when they 1st come here or if i hear any coughing.
 
bama,

Do you/have you kept records on % of purchases lost for a year thru death?

Somewhere I read..a little while ago... a normal herd loss is around 3% per year. How does your purchase for resale compare? any numbers..in your head?

That ..as I recall.... was not broke down into starting herd vs new arrivals vs. purchases.
 
I have found that oralmycin takes to long to work. If I got one coughing I hit it wilt La-200 as soon as it steps off the trailer. I'll give it again the next three days. On the forth day I let the condition dictate. I have given as many as 5 days strait till they got over it.
 
Bama":1ih9oekk said:
I have found that oralmycin takes to long to work. If I got one coughing I hit it wilt La-200 as soon as it steps off the trailer. I'll give it again the next three days. On the forth day I let the condition d
ictate. I have given as many as 5 days strait till they got over it.

"bama "how much LA200 daily normal dosage or higher?
 
Bama not trying to step on your toes, but LA-200 is slow release,long lasting,giving multiple doses in a row can be almost as harmful to Cattle as what you were treating in the first place.It stays in the system longer than plain pennicillin.
 
In praise of Nuflor, or Micatil if your brave!

Me thinks that Bama has quite a few that follow his footsteps in the buying markets. I do about the same as he does. But rarely get lucky enuff to see a 40 dollar cow.... at least not these days. Around here, even cattle that are considered the 'walking dead' are getting a decent buck. I did see one sold at auction not long ago, and go out back a few hours later just to see it dead in one of the pens.......

But Bama is right...........can be rolling the dice on some of them. especially sick ones. Just ol plain cob lookin ones are easy to 'repair' with a bit of TLC and some good feed. :cboy:
 
I almost didn't post that. I know that multiple doses are hard on em. The ones I was referring was in pretty bad shape. Several years ago I did that on the vets recommendations on a calf that could not get up. It worked. It never grew out as well as the rest of them but I still made pretty good on it. I have one now that I hit with 9cc on day one, 4cc on day 2,3,4 skipped day 5 and 4cc on day 6. Day 7 I told it to live or die. It is doing fine now 3 months later. All on the advice of the vet. It had shipping fever in a bad way. My idea was either cure it or get it over with. The one I got for 40 dollars was not a cow but a calf. I tubed it for a few days and then dewormed it before turning out to pasture. I made better on it than I did on some others. I did see a cow go through about 3 months ago for $5.00 thats the lowest I have ever seen. It was on the verge of being a downer. A light breeze would have put her on the floor. She had multiple problems. I didn't buy her, I didn't see who did buy her but was curious what they did with her. Preston I'm at work now and I am away from my records but I would say off the top of my head that 3 percent is a little high for loses. I have bought one week and carried back to another sale 2 days later. I took a loss but i didn't loss everthing. Around here you can't do that if you pump them full of meds. After I got that one home I dicided it wasn't worth the risk. I never gave it any meds, just took my loss and forgot about it. On another note keep these calves away from your main herd as you don't want to expose them all to the ILLBEDEADIFYOUDONTDOSOMETHING disease.
 
Bama":1kk5s31y said:
I almost didn't post that. I know that multiple doses are hard on em. The ones I was referring was in pretty bad shape. Several years ago I did that on the vets recommendations on a calf that could not get up. .

"bama" i have noticed that a few times. The overdosing by some vets..but if it works?
 
We do as Bama to some extent. Thanks Bama - enjoy reading your posts. I'm not as gutsy as Bama but am gutsier than most around here. We also use LA200 and overmed as directed by vet. First time, I questioned vet about this. Was explained to me that these over-the-counter meds have lighter dosage recommendations so the general public doesn't do drastic harm. Done carefully as a vet recommends can be done safely with better results. He explained it as your aspirin bottle recommends taking 2 tablets for your headache, but if you take 3 tablets for a bad headache, you don't die from it. Over-the-counter meds try to build in safeguards so that someone trying to doctor without a real doctor won't kill by accident. My last words out of the barn are " It'll either cure ya or kill ya. Either way, you're better off than you are now." Surprising how many you cure. I agree a 3% death loss sounds a little high.
 
Another indicator that a calf is not feeling up to its best is standing with its head lowered. Sometimes its back will be arched. These along with the eyes and ears are something that you can see as it comes into the ring for the brief period you have to observe. You may still get one that comes down sick from the salebarn but its better to have it at least start out in good shape. I would rather have one start getting sick as we leave the barn verses one that was sick off the getgo. The latter one I don't know how long it has been sick or what has been done prior. One that gets sick after going to my place I at least know what hasn't been done and have a better understanding where to start.
 

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