Shipped the Big Girls

[Stocker Steve]

Sent 4 of my 6 big girls to the bred cow sale Saturday. These wet bag continental cross cows run 1480 to 1610 pounds.

Kit would be happy - - except that I left the other 2 big cows off with probation. :nod: It is working so far since there was quite a bit of hay left in the feeders the next morning.

 

[berrybiggest]

This was a very good read it. Last, it provides more detailed information. It's good to know very much more with it.

 

[TennesseeTuxedo]

This was a very good read it. Last, it provides more detailed information. It's good to know very much more with it.

Is English your second language Berry?

 

[AllForage]

Sent 4 of my 6 big girls to the bred cow sale Saturday. These wet bag continental cross cows run 1480 to 1610 pounds.

Kit would be happy - - except that I left the other 2 big cows off with probation. :nod: It is working so far since there was quite a bit of hay left in the feeders the next morning.

Well I'm glad you pleased the mighty Kit, cause around here he don't matter

 

[ANAZAZI]

Sent 4 of my 6 big girls to the bred cow sale Saturday. These wet bag continental cross cows run 1480 to 1610 pounds.

Kit would be happy - - except that I left the other 2 big cows off with probation. :nod: It is working so far since there was quite a bit of hay left in the feeders the next morning.

Well I'm glad you pleased the mighty Kit, cause around here he don't matter

Oh irony is homeopatic medicin, the less you use the stronger the effect...

(BTW, I am sure that the Kit is now happy that four bred cows changed owner and are now going to produce the same kind of calves on another farm.) ( :compute: )

 

[branguscowgirl]

Who is kit? Should I know this already?
And where did berrybiggest come from??


I am so confused......... :roll:

 

[bulldurham]

Sent 4 of my 6 big girls to the bred cow sale Saturday. These wet bag continental cross cows run 1480 to 1610 pounds.

Kit would be happy - - except that I left the other 2 big cows off with probation. :nod: It is working so far since there was quite a bit of hay left in the feeders the next morning.

Well I'm glad you pleased the mighty Kit, cause around here he don't matter

Oh irony is homeopatic medicin, the less you use the stronger the effect...

(BTW, I am sure that the Kit is now happy that four bred cows changed owner and are now going to produce the same kind of calves on another farm.) ( :compute: )

Unfortunate for the new owner as none of those 14-1600lb cows will come close to weaning 50% of their body weight. And no, leaving them on the cow for 10 months doesn't count lol

 

[Nesikep]

What is the obsession about % of body weight weaned? A small cow has far greater energy requirements per pound, especially in cold weather than a big cow, and feed intake isn't directly proportional to body weight either. And I do have 1500 lb cows that wean 50% of their body weight in 205 days on grass alone.

 

[branguscowgirl]

:nod: My big Rosie cow (14 this year) just weaned her heifer at 748 on grass. She herself is in such great condition, you would never have known she was nursing that big calf.

 

[bulldurham]

What is the obsession about % of body weight weaned? A small cow has far greater energy requirements per pound, especially in cold weather than a big cow, and feed intake isn't directly proportional to body weight either. And I do have 1500 lb cows that wean 50% of their body weight in 205 days on grass alone.

It's not an obsession but rather elementary arithmetic.

The % of 1500lb cows that wean half their body weight is SUBSTANTIALLY lower than the % of 1200lb cows who do the same. Presenting an anecdotal exception as the rule is poor practice.

 

[Nesikep]

You mean the same way that saying a 1000 lb cow eats half as much as a 2000 lb cow as you presume is purely anecdotal as well? The 2000 lb cow probably eats 50% more than a 1000 lb cow, and the worse the weather the better that ratio will be.

 

[ANAZAZI]

You mean the same way that saying a 1000 lb cow eats half as much as a 2000 lb cow as you presume is purely anecdotal as well? The 2000 lb cow probably eats 50% more than a 1000 lb cow, and the worse the weather the better that ratio will be.

A 2000 lb cow eats roughly 1,7 times as much as a 1000 lb cow. :2cents:

 

[bulldurham]

You mean the same way that saying a 1000 lb cow eats half as much as a 2000 lb cow as you presume is purely anecdotal as well? The 2000 lb cow probably eats 50% more than a 1000 lb cow, and the worse the weather the better that ratio will be.

sounds good.. but can you prove it??

didn't think so.

 

[ANAZAZI]

You mean the same way that saying a 1000 lb cow eats half as much as a 2000 lb cow as you presume is purely anecdotal as well? The 2000 lb cow probably eats 50% more than a 1000 lb cow, and the worse the weather the better that ratio will be.

sounds good.. but can you prove it??

didn't think so.

Apart from beleiving to know the answer, can you prove him wrong?

 

[bulldurham]

yes. A simple basal metabolic rate calculation would disprove his claim. It would not give me the preciseness that you replied with, however. I'm curious to know how you came up with the 1.7 number

 

[Rafter S]

Who is kit? Should I know this already?
And where did berrybiggest come from??


I am so confused......... :roll:

You're not alone in your confusion.

 

[Nesikep]

I have done some experiments in the wintertime when I'm feeding hay.. the big cows don't need a whole lot more to eat than the younger or smaller cows to maintain condition..
Where did I mention 1.7?

I'm not claiming my numbers are accurate, I'm claiming that feed intake is not directly proportional to body mass.

 

[ANAZAZI]

yes. A simple basal metabolic rate calculation would disprove his claim. It would not give me the preciseness that you replied with, however. I'm curious to know how you came up with the 1.7 number

It comes from Zimbabwe, where much effort has been placed in solving the riddle that smaller framed cattle do better on washy grass with little nutrition.

 

[bulldurham]

Who is kit? Should I know this already?
And where did berrybiggest come from??


I am so confused......... :roll:

You're not alone in your confusion.

kit pharo

 

[ANAZAZI]

Half the confusion is still left, rather most is left, because many know Kit Pharo, and but few know berrybiggest.