We run 3 grain trucks, 2 Petes with Cats, and an International with a N14 cummins. the international and one pete are over 400 horse, and the other pete is 350, maybe 380. You can tell the difference with a load on, the small pete cant hang with the others climbing hills, but it gets the job done. It also kind of depends on the loads you are gonna haul. We probably couldnt tell too much of a difference if we only hauled 80000. But during harvest we are coming out of the field with 92K give or take ;-) It would be awfully nice to have a couple Petes with the 475 cat, but its wishfull thinking. You can get by with less..