Thanks. And they definitely are moderate. But still competitive as feeder calves. I weighed my calves last spring in June, and again in October at weaning. I compared their ADG from birth to June, and then June to October. I started creep feeding in June. It was interesting my Bruiser calves barely made a jump in ADG after I started creep feeding, while some of my big framed terminal calves jumped as much as .5-.7. ADG. That told me that the Bruiser calves were able to perform closer to their peak potential without the extra inputs.