Rookie implement question

SJB

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Stupid newbie question:

I don't have a tractor yet, but my little brother has a ~45 hp 4wd kubota with a FEL. I was thinking about a few things I need to be able to do to start with on my place, and on the farms I deer hunt.

Next year I'd like to take 2 separate hayfields and put in some milo and sunflowers, then mow, disc and top sow winter wheat. These would be dove fields.

I also need to get to work on my garden spot and pumpkin patch.

These all sound like pretty basic training-wheel projects.

My question is, Do I need a tiller, or just a disc? I would think I would need both? Recommendations? I know this is a very rookie question, but do I need a certain kind of disc/tiller for the kubota?
 
A rear mounted tiller is nice, no doubt about it. You can work ground without it. Especially if your just doing small areas. I parked my plow, and my disc. I just run a field cultivator with a big drag behind it to prepare ground. I usually spray the area with glyphosate before I start. Hit from 3 different directions with the cultivator, and I usually have a seed bed that work for what I have to plant.
 
Bigfoot":xucck3kz said:
I just run a field cultivator with a big drag behind it to prepare ground. I usually spray the area with glyphosate before I start. Hit from 3 different directions with the cultivator, and I usually have a seed bed that work for what I have to plant.

i looked up the cultivator. some of them look like a combination of disk/plow/tiller and work off PTO, but the smaller ones i found just look like a spring tooth harrow on a 3pt hitch? are you talking about the larger ones or the smaller ones?

what is the smallest one of the PTO style units you know of? it looks like what i would be interested in. if i had a small bush hog and one of those, i could do some stuff!
 
M-5":392dvnwn said:
tiller is a great but slow. I prefer a disc. You still have to make several passes all different directions. but Imo it does the best job on compacted pasture
Pasture it's ok, but unless the garden is HUGE a pto tiller is great.
 
Garden isn't huge. Probably a half acre pumpkin patch, small vegetable garden (2 families)

But I've also got two dove fields to make. One is softer bottomland, about 5-10 acres. the other is fallow and probably a good bit of clay, about 2-4 acres.
 
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SJB":17sjmxvn said:
Garden isn't huge. Probably a half acre pumpkin patch, small vegetable garden (2 families)

But I've also got two dove fields to make. One is softer bottomland, about 5-10 acres. the other is fallow and probably a good bit of clay, about 2-4 acres.

a 5 or 6' disc will get utilized more IMO, It will do all the jobs needed where some of the other tilling implements are job specific. I piece of RR iron as a drag and you can do everything but plant with it.
 
SJB":1hte6bqa said:
Garden isn't huge. Probably a half acre pumpkin patch, small vegetable garden (2 families)

But I've also got two dove fields to make. One is softer bottomland, about 5-10 acres. the other is fallow and probably a good bit of clay, about 2-4 acres.
Plow/disc is the way to go with fields that large. Tiller would get it done, but would take a ridiculous amount of time.
If the weeds are very tall, before plowing I'd suggest mowing and then spraying after the fields start growing back. That way you're not trying to plow under 5' tall weeds, then trying to disc them later.
 
I like to use a disc on my garden and fields the only thing I till is a yard when putting sod down for a customer. You can do alot more with a disc than a tiller you can use a disc to overseed or to lightly cover up wheat seed if you choose etc. I do agree to burn an area down then disc it. Tillers are slow and word of advice buy a gear driven tiller if you go that way or else you will spend alot of time fixing chains.
 
In the desert I cleared a lot of acres of creosote and sage brush with 6 foot pto tiller. Drug it with chainlink fence and man it looked good. Invariably the next year each of those areas grew up solid with tumbleweeds. I think it was a case seedbank being stirred up and the brush having kept the stuff from growing.
 

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