Riverton KS School Murder Plans

[aplusmnt]

Wondering if you guys getting any information on National news about the Riverton KS School Murder Plot?

We live just a few miles from Riverton, almost opted to send my kids to school there since bus runs by our house.

Crazy kids now days! Once they quit spanking them at home and in school it has gone all to heck!

 

[certherfbeef]

The school where my kids go is a small country school. Principal, teachers and I are all on first name basis. They all know that if they need to, they are to paddle my kids and tell me about it later. They havn't needed to yet.

Sorry to hear about the trouble in your neck of the woods Aplus.
Spare the rod and spoil the child.

 

[Scout]

I read the news and wondered about you, aplus. I guess we always think 'it won't happen to me'....I'm afraid it may be a matter of time before we witness (or nearly witness) a tragedy like that in our district.

 

[Herefordcross]

We didn't get spanked. We got beat with a belt or a switch. We started hunting when were 8 years old. I don't know where in the world they come up with these ideas of shooting everyone. A day in IRAQ would wake these 16,17,18 year olds up in a hurry. And your right who knows where/when it will happen next. I would imagine that the high publicity surrounding the columbine incident didn't help with future events either.

 

[Ryder]

We didn't get spanked. We got beat with a belt or a switch. We started hunting when were 8 years old. I don't know where in the world they come up with these ideas of shooting everyone. A day in IRAQ would wake these 16,17,18 year olds up in a hurry. And your right who knows where/when it will happen next. I would imagine that the high publicity surrounding the columbine incident didn't help with future events either.

You were hunting at 8 and probably working before that. I think that makes a lot of difference. That is, doing something needed and meaningful vs. playing childish games and being 'booored'.

 

[VanC]

Aplus: I'm with Scout- heard it on the radio yesterday and wondered about you and your kids. Must be scary having it that close. Crazy what people will do nowadays just to get noticed.

 

[aplusmnt]

Makes a guy think a little more when it happens a stone throw from the house. But there is some common things when you hear these stories, loners, violent video games etc.......

Got rid of my kids video games some time ago, no Satellite TV, they can have most any toy, motorcycle, horses, any thing that has to be played with in the great outdoors.

 

[chrisy]

some times it is not what they have to play with, but who they play with that can be a bad influence on them, not the video games or films it has to be in them first, the Schools and Police dont have the control over them like they used to, and the bad one know this and lead the good ones into it with them, and all our good work on bringing them up properly goes out of the window. I know first hand what it can do, all I can say is Thank God my son came out of the bad crowd before it was to late. He is with the right sort now and has turned over a new leaf, and is a different boy. but for a time I was wondering where my good little boy had gone, and all the hard work me and his father had done. My Husband works in the prison service and sees it all the time, and then to have his own son go down that road, was very painful. sorry I have rambled and taken over this thread. but that's my twopence worth.

 

[Calman]

When they took GOD out of schools it brought in guns and hate.

Cal

 

[Herefordcross]

Calman
Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 3:55 am Post subject:

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When they took GOD out of schools it brought in guns and hate.


I commented on this subject once before and I got booted. But, I will simply agree with you!

 

[Calman]

Calman
Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 3:55 am Post subject:

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When they took GOD out of schools it brought in guns and hate.


I commented on this subject once before and I got booted. But, I will simply agree with you!

If I get booted I don't need to be on here anyhow and will never post again. My feelings exactly.

Cal

 

[chrisy]

When they took GOD out of schools it brought in guns and hate.

Cal

how true, very true. bring back school assemblies and discipline, before teachers can keep a child back after school now they need the parents permission and punishment is handed down the next day, this is wrong it should be on the day at the time, children should be allowed to ring their folks to let them know that they will be late and why, it might make them think more before they act. We don't have a gun problem here, but we do a knife one and drugs. There should be some blanket cover that enables a teacher to search a child if they feel it is necessary, with another one present so as not to get the wrong alligations made. All this politically correct thing has gone to far.

 

[BlackBaldyMan]

I agree that some video games MAY have an affect on these tragedies but I dont think that it is by any means the only thing to single out. Problem is that especially teenage boys are really suceptable to many new things, and emotionally not very sound in some cases and sometimes even something as simple as a girlfriend/boyfriend relationship breakup could spark a young boy to have these feelings of killing. I also feel there is nothing wrong with having guns, as I myself (21 years old) have had guns since I was 8 or 9. Problem is that these young boys that dont have any training with the guns, they have seen them used on TV or video games and have NO CLUE how to use them or what they can do get ahold of these and use them as a tool to get what they want. I just feel that there are alot of different factors that can play into these boys in school shootings.

 

[aplusmnt]

I agree with everyone that there is lots of different reasons that lead up to why kids do things like this. But I believe if certain positive things are done in the family this kind of thing will not happen with our kids.

1. Parents know were your kids are and what they are doing
2. Extremely limit TV Watching
3. Extremely limit or get rid of Video games.
4. Do not let you kids hang with bad kids
5. Family's Work together
6. Family's Play TOGETHER!

7. Spend time with your children, if they are with you they can not be plotting to blow up a school.

8. Teach them manners from early age, hard to shoot someone if you are saying please and thank you to everyone.

9. Don't spare the rod, and don't wait till they are 13 to implement this rule, start young.

10. Pay attention to how they dress, if they live at your house they DO NOT wear trendy clothes that associate themselves with gang bangers, cult groups, they dress like respectful young men and women, then they will not fit in with the gang bangers. If they try to sneak and break this rule then refer to #9

I am sure there are lots more please list any I have overlooked. If are kids turn out bad, we have failed them somewhere along the way, probably lacking in one or more of the above guidelines.

 

[chrisy]

sorry not so the case I done everything with my Son, took him to football, karate, swimming, drama, art and Cub's, Scouts even became an Arkela to help bring him up properly, he also belonged to a motorbike display team, he uses Please, Thank You, and excuse me if he makes a bodily noise. but he got to 15 years old went to an after school club where I thought he would be safe, and met up with a gang that influanced him, and it took a lot for his Father and Myself to get him back, with help from his school and his older sisters. It was nearly loosing his Dad in the 2004 Tsunami, that made him realise what life is all about and how precious it is, he came back from that a completely different lad and has not been in any trouble since.
He had had disapline guideance and all the help he needed, he was grounded for months on end, but it was peer pressure out side that undone all our work. It is not always the parents fault, as I know first hand, and I do listern and talk to all three of my children, and act on what they tell me if I can.

 

[SPRINGER FARMS MURRAY GRE]

Remember, satan is the lord of this world....and as the influence of the Holy Spirit is withdrawn, it will get worse and worse! :shock: :shock:

 

[aplusmnt]

sorry not so the case I done everything with my Son, took him to football, karate, swimming, drama, art and Cub's, Scouts even became an Arkela to help bring him up properly, he also belonged to a motorbike display team, he uses Please, Thank You, and excuse me if he makes a bodily noise. but he got to 15 years old went to an after school club where I thought he would be safe, and met up with a gang that influanced him, and it took a lot for his Father and Myself to get him back, with help from his school and his older sisters. It was nearly loosing his Dad in the 2004 Tsunami, that made him realise what life is all about and how precious it is, he came back from that a completely different lad and has not been in any trouble since.
He had had disapline guideance and all the help he needed, he was grounded for months on end, but it was peer pressure out side that undone all our work. It is not always the parents fault, as I know first hand, and I do listern and talk to all three of my children, and act on what they tell me if I can.

Chrissy.......it is not good to turn conversations like this personal, because nothing will get us parents as upset as someone saying bad things about our kids. So I am talking in general and not about any ones specific kid. But that being said please re read my list, especially rule # 1 and 4 in regards your son and his after-school club and gang members. The most important thing is that you got him straightened up though! Good job!

As parents we have to accept responsibility if our kids go bad, God gives us a piece of clay to mold, what it turns out like is up to us as parents. I am sure there are exceptions if a kid has some Mental disorder but 99% of kids turn out the way they do because of the influence and direction given by their family.

 

[Calman]

I raised 4 children by my self (without their mother) youngest now 28 and children of her own. I worked an 8hr day and still found time for my kids. It wasen't easy but it all worked out great. Never had a serious problem from anyone of them.

But I will have to say out of 2 boys and 2 girls the girls were much harder to raise than the boys.

I am now a proud grandpaw of 12 grandchildren and another due anytime.

But on the other hand if I needed help I knew just who to ask.

Cal

 

[rkm]

Something to be proud of Calman!

 

[chrisy]

sorry I was not saying anything about anyone elses child just my own, I would never bad mouth another child. I did not mean to get personal, I was just stating a point of how I found things to be.. I raised a girl on my own for 7 years before I married my second husband, with no trouble at all. and he raised a boy and a girl on his own, also with no trouble, it seems the way of the times we live in today. but enough said of that now. point taken.