Python Magnum Ear Tags

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I have a box of Python Magnum Y Tex Ear Tags that I bought last year, and they have worked great, this year and last. I really like the Y Tex Method the best.
This was the first year the fly tags were used at this farm, here at the house. I used them the year before on the other farm before I brought 3 of the heifers home.

I have not seen any resistance to the flies due to using them because of the heifers. Nor have I seen a problem using the tags the second year.

My question is, how long will these tags last? The tags have been kept sealed in the cool for the second year, and there are enough to do them them another year.

How long has anyone been able to keep sealed tags after purchasing them?
Thanks!

Chuckie
 
Tennessee Tuxedo, it looks like I am going to have to have to make that call. I was hoping that someone had used them longer than usual. That would be nice to hear. Maybe someone could say they used them for three years after they were manufactured and they still worked just fine. But it just doesn't look like it's gonna happen Tuxedo. But I do appreciate you heading me in the right direction!

Chuckie
 
That is kind of you to say, but I always need help T Tuxedo. I sure could have used your help earlier, and I do appreciate you offering to do it. Too bad we are not neighbors. I learn something new all the time. All someone has to do is try it a different way, and it makes things so much easier. Sometimes I think that I am doing things the easy way, and someone will show me an easier way, that I had not tried.

Do you remember how difficult I said it would be for me to run the cattle through the chute at this time? I found a way that a person without a lot of strength can do it alone.
The difficult part would be getting them from the back of the chute, to the headgate. I have a "Big Valley" chute, and it is the longest chute, to fit any size bull. So there is a lot of room for a cow or a calf to go forward or backward.

I do not use a prod because I am trying to keep my animals quite, otherwise, I will not be able to handle them. I do not want them to dread coming into the barn either. I am the one working the tail gate and the head chute too.

Once they are in the chute, and the door closes, they put their rear ends against the tail gate. I go to the front of the headgate and visually measure their heads, to give them somewhere to go with their head, by opening the headgate just wide enough for it to pass through.

I take a round metal pole, and a T post, (No tail grabbing, that wears me out since I raise the Jolly Green Giant's cows, and I cannot hold my arms up that high for too long, and this is much less stressful on the cow and the person who is trying to keep their animals quite.

I take the T post and place it through the side bars, at an angle, and wedge it against their rear end. Then push, and the sharpness of the angle iron, will make them walk forward. That is where I place my metal pole. Then the next few times, I can get more of an angle, and push the cow forward. This is so easy. Each time the cow moves forward, I take my round metal pole, and place it as close as I can behind the cows rump.

The very last step, getting her head through the head gate. I have walked her up to the head gate and I have her so crowded around the headgate, it looks like she is standing on a stool. She has no where else to go but put her head through the headgate to get some relief. She may stand there for a few seconds, but she will give in, and stick her head through. There are no misses, and trying to get her to run back to the front. This is so simple if you have to do this by yourself with limited strength.

I only had to use the bar on the side, and not use the sharpness of the end. But on Nell, she would not move forward, and I backed the T Post out, so that the tip end of it was on her left side of her fat a$$ and gave it a push. She gladly walked forward like she was out for a stroll. Then I put the bar behind her. Ha-ha!!

I do have some very tame cows. Some that stood in the head gate and acted like nothing was going on. My biggest Giant cow, I did not even put her in the head gate, I just gave her shots while she was in the chute. She is such a sweetie.
I do have one cow Nell, that makes my blood pressure go up. She is a runner. She always thinks that I am going to catch her, so she takes off. When I look at her, I want to sell her, But she has such a huge barrel on her, and I want to see what kind of calf she throws. I hope that she has a long calf like Grit, with her barrel. Yeah right. Just like punching the buttons on a coffee machine!!!!! Her first calf, was stepped on by another cow. It's tail was broken in several places and it's sides were real muddy. But she likes food too well, and is one of the first to be caught. I can write a book on her....

I could not get the gate to shut on Grit's neck. I am sure that there is a way to set the gate that I did not work out. I did make the gate wider at the bottom so that he could get his neck in the chute. But when he wanted to, he could pull it back in. I finally had to get the bar and run it in behind his rump where he could not move back to pull his head out. Then it worked fine.

I am sure that this could be worked a lot faster than I worked it. If you had 100 head to work in one day, then, this is probably a joke. I am sure the prod moves them much faster.

But maybe this will help someone who is trying to work a few cattle, if they have had some health issues, and do not want to give their cattle up. Or something along these lines.

Chuckie
 
You're in far west Tennessee aren't you Chuckie? I wish I could lend a hand. I need the experience and sounds like you could use a hand even though you're doing pretty well on your own.

I'm going to up to my mother in laws Friday to visit her "girls" over the weekend. I can't wait.

Take care Chuckie,
 
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Sounds like you got it pretty well sorted Chuckie. I'll have to keep the T post in mind when I have to walk them up, it makes it just that bit more uncomfortable for them than a nice round and smooth piece of pipe. I am having to work my cows by myself a fair bit at the moment with syncronising and inseminating. I am always looking for a new trick to outfox them and like you, I work to keep them quiet and make it as pleasant experience as possible.
Ken
 
Yeh, I sometimes give them a bit of a prod on the behind with a bit of polypipe in my right hand with the lever in my left hand. The only problem when strung out like this I have no power in the left arm to close the head bale, especially as it starts off from a bit of height. I might have to build a rear lever on it. I've just come up from inseminating 4 heifers and all went smoothly.
Ken
 
To answer the original ?...what's the instructions say for use?if the tags were kept sealed in a bag between fly season, and your fly season is say 3 months, and the instructions say they are good for a year, I would think overall they'd be good for 4 years total use. Really depends on how long they are rated for and how long you use them. Other than that I'd say use them til you see flies being a problem. Thatll give you a basis for your use
 
I pretty much had it figured out they would work out most of the fly season on the ordinary flies. I did not know what we would be hit with this year, and luckily we didn't have a deer fly population. I did read the 3 month for the hard core flies and the 5 month for the light flies, but they should put the long term use on the box. I guess that informatin might make some people look a little longer down the line. One cow came through had some flies on her face, so I gave her a new tag.

I did call the company, and she said 2 years. Ugh! I am going to see if I can get 3. If they won't work, then I'll just have to send the cows back through. I kept telling them that they already had a hole punched in their ear, I didn't see what the big deal was!

Chuckie
 
I use a different tag, bright orange Y Tec , but all my cows wear halters , so I clip with hog rings 2 tags per cow on their halters, and as all my cows at the moment are dairy I have to use tags for lactating dairy cows,and have used the same pack for 3 years or so ,as I am only tagging around 5 head, all my cows are trained to come into my shoot and head gate, as I do not
have a alleyway system built, I use a 1/2 barrel and a small amount of grain, call cows into the corral
and rattle a grain can,so they come to the gate to the shoot, I use 12 ft panels to direct them.I open the head gate big enough for their head, pour a bite of grain in the barrel, open gate to let cow in,
and close the next one out, then walk up and close head gate, when I am done my cows are trained to back out ,I did put a side panel up for preg checking this year so we could just kick them out the side,as my vet likes to just stacks them up in my temp alley, for preg checking, I work my cows by my self also, my AI tec likes to do my cows also,as he comes after I have left for work, so I leave
the cow in the temp alley/ shoot with some hay, and all he has to do is open head gate so cow puts her head in, and then opens back gate when he is done and the cow backs out and goes her merry way. Suzanne
 
Are your Y-Tec tags a Python Magnum brand insecticide brand or are they a different type? I had no idea that Y-Tec was making fly tags, but I was not looking in that direction, because I did not need any. But hopefully you have the same that I have, and they will last another year, and I will not have to look for that new fly tag till year after next! That is good to know because it is much easier to catch an existing hole with that type of gun than it is with the solid punch tooth type gun. I am ready to get away from that type. If a cow jumps too quick, it can tear an ear, and that makes me sick. Usually I can let go of it and let it swing.

I am sure that it is much more enjoyable to work around nice quite cattle like yours than the ones that are jerked out of the pasture for a couple of rounds of shots once a year.
Chuckie
 
Chuckie":3s0rdu6m said:
I pretty much had it figured out they would work out most of the fly season on the ordinary flies. I did not know what we would be hit with this year, and luckily we didn't have a deer fly population. I did read the 3 month for the hard core flies and the 5 month for the light flies, but they should put the long term use on the box. I guess that informatin might make some people look a little longer down the line. One cow came through had some flies on her face, so I gave her a new tag.

I did call the company, and she said 2 years. Ugh! I am going to see if I can get 3. If they won't work, then I'll just have to send the cows back through. I kept telling them that they already had a hole punched in their ear, I didn't see what the big deal was!
Chuckie

That kinda sounds like the sign I put up for the bull moose on the other quarter. It said "All Moose Please Cross Here" and was posted at the Texas gate ,so they wouldn't go through my fence anymore. Apparently moose cannot read ,because it didn't work ;-)
 
mine are the gardstar plus a pyrethroid , I booberd as they are red not orange and Y tex not tec, should of looked and not gone from memery ,I do have the Y tex tagger, and tag some as calves
but not my cows ,as I did not have a tag remover ,( but now I do ) as I do not tag very often
just when I have a large group of calves,to keep track of.and my cows have been messed with enough that I can play with their ears , checking tattoos and bangs tags for my yearly TB testing
Suzanne
 
That's OK on the Y-Tek Suzanne, I hope they start to make the fly tags soon. I am not sure why they don't make the insecticide tags;( e. g.) if it is the construction of the type of reg. plastic vs the insecticide plastic, or perhaps the insecticidal plastic cannot go inside the hole of a cow's ear. Does anyone know????

hillsdown,
Now that you have brought this to my attention, I think we need to use picture signs: picture of the cow's ear with a hole in it, and a big X over the hole. Whadda ya think?
 

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